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    Suunto 9 with the recent GPS firmware was among least accurate GPS watches in today's 25K trail race

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    • surfboomerangS Offline
      surfboomerang @Dimitrios Kanellopoulos
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      @Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos I haven’t seen the speed wobbles in my running activities. Only on other profiles. I think it has something to do with a different log algorithm in the running profiles.

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      • Dimitrios KanellopoulosD Offline
        Dimitrios Kanellopoulos Community Manager @surfboomerang
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        @surfboomerang we don’t use anything different (algo) between types.

        It can be though the way you use your arms

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          freeheeler @Dimitrios Kanellopoulos
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          @Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos
          like “shocks” from waves and fusedspeed becomes confusedspeed?

          living sideways

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            Shrek3k
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            I am ready for an improved GPS (+ ×) software, too.
            I a challenging environment (weekdays I am running in Berlin, approx 30% of the route(s) between rather solid and high houses) pure GPS and/or GPS+ Galileo/Glonass are quite often a real disaster and only offering a ‘wobbling’ track. And it does not even help to activate the exercise type and wait for a few minutes after the position has been found(yes, minutes, which currently is not too cozy 😉 )

            using a Suunto Vertical & Suunto Wings; mostly running (AKA stomping around) and cycling mostly through the northern german "wilderness"
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            • Fenr1rF Offline
              Fenr1r @freeheeler
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              @TELE-HO said in Suunto 9 with the recent GPS firmware was among least accurate GPS watches in today's 25K trail race:

              confusedspeed

              Bravo. Better than any Friday deserves.

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              • Dimitrios KanellopoulosD Offline
                Dimitrios Kanellopoulos Community Manager @freeheeler
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                @TELE-HO GPS no. Speed distance yes though 😄 Only if GPS is off / lost / bad.

                There is also confusedTrack BTW 😄

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                  nseslija Bronze Member @Dimitrios Kanellopoulos
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                  @Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos Interesting, I was convinced that there is different GPS algo for different sport modes… open water and cycling, for example…

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                  • Dimitrios KanellopoulosD Offline
                    Dimitrios Kanellopoulos Community Manager @nseslija
                    last edited by

                    @nseslija well I said something wrong.

                    For cycling/running no diff.

                    For open water only yes there is a special mode.

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                      nseslija Bronze Member @Dimitrios Kanellopoulos
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                      @Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos ok, tnx

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                        zvonejan Bronze Member @Dimitrios Kanellopoulos
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                        @Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos said in Suunto 9 with the recent GPS firmware was among least accurate GPS watches in today's 25K trail race:

                        @surfboomerang I have not tested high speeds. Only up to 22km/h that is the fastest j can run.

                        Can you share this FW? I take all responsibility myself if anything goes wrong.

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                        • Dimitrios KanellopoulosD Offline
                          Dimitrios Kanellopoulos Community Manager @zvonejan
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                          @zvonejan if it was with only the GPS FW updated yes.

                          Unfortunately it’s debug build and I can’t. Let aside that they check FW versions vs SN

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                          • Łukasz SzmigielŁ Offline
                            Łukasz Szmigiel
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                            What can I say - if conditions are right, Suunto 5 is spot on. Apparently two layers of longsleeve covering the watch don’t do much if GNSS signal is strong.

                            But - according to Trimble GNSS Planning there were between 8 and 9 GPS satellites visible and between 6 and 7 Galileo satellites and DOP was very low.

                            Today’s run with GPS + Galileo:

                            Open area:
                            Notice top right path being off - I actually run off the embankment and the track is very accurate and consistent.
                            Screenshot_20200124-192318.png

                            Mixed park / open / low buildings:
                            Screenshot_20200124-192414.png

                            An old park with plenty of tall trees:
                            Screenshot_20200124-192339.png

                            S9PP 2.40.44

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                              Mff73 @Łukasz Szmigiel
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                              @Łukasz-Szmigiel
                              S5 BARO should be a killer.

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                                stromdiddily Gold Members @Mff73
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                                @Mff73 was hoping that would be the s7. I think a Baro version would kill S9 imo

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                                  nseslija Bronze Member @stromdiddily
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                                  @stromdiddily S9B with external antenna… my dream watch…

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                                  • Łukasz SzmigielŁ Offline
                                    Łukasz Szmigiel
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                                    I did some scouting on Beidou availability and it’s pretty impressive - while there are around 5 - 9 GPS, Galileo and GLONASS satellites above Wrocław at any given time, there are between 10 and 14 Beidou sats at the same moment.

                                    I believe that Beidou support might solve some GNSS problems for people doing workouts in the mountains or dense urban areas.

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                                      Dimitrios Kanellopoulos Community Manager @Łukasz Szmigiel
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                                      @Łukasz-Szmigiel I think I agree.

                                      I have been testing now 2 weeks the new FW , I managed to get bad offsets etc from all systems used except GPS-BEIDOU.

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                                      • zvonejanZ Offline
                                        zvonejan Bronze Member
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                                        Honestly, i’m quite pleased with the accuracy lately. These are the last 4 training sessions in the forest and the maximum deviations between tracsk is 15 meters. I use a combination of Gps Galileo,. Only gps give worse results. Gps + Glonas results are really bad - unacceptable to me
                                        forest1.jpg

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                                        • zvonejanZ Offline
                                          zvonejan Bronze Member
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                                          And last 3 street runs, clear sky. Almost no deviations. I hope, that stays in new FW 🙂
                                          street.jpg

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                                          • Dimitrios KanellopoulosD Offline
                                            Dimitrios Kanellopoulos Community Manager @zvonejan
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                                            @zvonejan I like it that you look at the scale.

                                            I have seen people posting:

                                            • What a great track -> Line is super thick (polar/Strava) and scale is like 1KM 😄
                                            • What a bad traack -> Line is super thin (ok) and scale is like 2m

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