Ambit 3 Peak uploading routes from website to app to watch

vr2udt

@Prenj Voted in that topic in your signature, and me too received the recent Vertical Week email from Suunto, being owner of an Ambit 3 Sport though not actively using it. Features and bells and whistles aside, I still think Ambit 3 has the sexiest form factor, and is about the right size.

Prenj

@yura800

That will remain possible. It’s just not clear whether we’ll only be able to sync our routes by cable from our computers or there will be sync by a mobile phone (like we can do now with MC app) and whether Suunto app route creator and poi management will be enabled for ambit users. I created a topic with this feature request (see in my signature).

Fenr1r

@Prenj Well, possibly possible. Suunto promised a form of route management for Son of Movescount: I would hope it means at least what you suggest but we don’t know. And the OP asked about “searching” - there’s no indication as yet that Suunto will provide anything to search, let alone the capability to do so.

Prenj

@Fenr1r said in Ambit3 peak (routes gpx import into watch support after transition):

@Prenj Well, possibly possible. Suunto promised a form of route management for Son of Movescount: I would hope it means at least what you suggest but we don’t know. And the OP asked about “searching” - there’s no indication as yet that Suunto will provide anything to search, let alone the capability to do so.

You are right. I’m just assuming that they would not remove anything related to navigation from MC successor. That would really be mean, and would further degrade the whole experience with the watch. But who knows… Suunto is always so secretive about their plans and roadmaps it really gets on my nerves. Dimitrios said few months ago there will be a roadmap for ambits. Still waiting.

sartoric

the original post from @yura800 (for some reason wasn’t moved along with the others)

Will we (Ambit3 peak users) be able to search (e.g in movescount) and import/export routes with the watch (especially import gpx tracks into watch memory to use during trekking, mounteneering) after the transition?
I have just bought the watch and frustrated after finding the information that MC is not going to be supported soon.

leavingsoon

@JaapvdB (I’m replying here just for anyone like myself who may still be trying to figure this issue out with their A3P one day.)

The reason this response was key for me was because @JaapvdB mentions the MOVESLINK 2 app for the computer. I’d completely forgotten I had it, but by connecting the watch to the computer with the watch’s usb cable, I could sync my watch to Movescount, thus also syncing the new routes I wanted to add to the watch. So I’m not bothering with the Suunto or Movescount apps and can just sync with Moveslink 2 for now.

Ben Evans

I noticed this , you can no longer create route to transfer to watch using Movescount . I’ve recently bought a Ambit 3 and this function was one of the reasons for purchase. The only current way round this is to create a gpx file with route you want on your computer then import in into movescount then onto your watch! you can actually create the gpx file on the sunnto app then transfer it to the cloud and back to your PC you just can’t do it with app directly to some watches . obviously if they scrap movescount this method will not work either .

Shrek3k

I confirm your experience. That is really unfortunate. As you mentioned not all watches have all options in SA. And although I have a Suunto 9 (in addition to my wife’s Ambit 3 Run - I am in charge of it, too, of course ) which is supported in a more complete manner this is really bad, because
a. It is still much easier and more comfortable to create a route with Movescount and with a proper display
b. SA still has so many bugs - if you prefer to call these inconsistencies, fine with me - that I still can’t rely on it fully. And yes, there has been a steady and ongoing development - except in the areas where it has not.

No, I am not going to talk about leaving Suunto now because of whatever. Nevertheless I just bought my daughter a Garmin and no Suunto as she ‘needed’ a sportwatch, too. And yes, I am comparing for the next year or years before deciding which watch will be the next.

Mff73

I tried also, and all seems OK, except we can’t put the start point on the map.
For sure Suunto is working on MC future, and for sure Suunto is not giving as much details as one wants, but, I really can’t imagine they will remove a feature like that :
without any notice somewhere, and really partially, with just disabling start point.
To me it is a bug from now, and they may solve it (or not), but saying it is on purpose …

Shrek3k

@Mff73 said in Ambit 3 Peak uploading routes from website to app to watch:

I tried also, and all seems OK, except we can’t put the start point on the map.
For sure Suunto is working on MC future, and for sure Suunto is not giving as much details as one wants, but, I really can’t imagine they will remove a feature like that :
without any notice somewhere, and really partially, with just disabling start point.
To me it is a bug from now, and they may solve it (or not), but saying it is on purpose …

I totally agree with you!

Prenj

Still the same. You cannot add the starting point when creating a route in Movescount. This is probably a bug (at least I hope so). Has this been reported to Suunto @Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos?

sartoric

@Prenj
This is the well known problem of maproute.
It was fixed on SA and probably is going to be fixed on MC (or its successor)

The mapbox is not responding as the old api is no more available
“Failed to load resource: the server responded with a status of 410 (Gone)”

Prenj

@sartoric Thnx for the info. I hope Suunto is aware of this and that they will fix it soon.

margusl

Here’s a fun workaround, one just needs to set a start point though gpx import. Though those who will are probably not too excited to use MC for planning in a first place …

It still gets the same response from mapbox and there’s no elevation, but all the rest seems to work. As MC route import does respect elevation data , it just makes more sense to build the whole thing with some other tool (e.g. plotaroute, as it can export waypoints that will survive MC gpx import).

petmic

It seems the altitude profile and ascent/descent are not calculated when planning new routes in movescount. Import of gpx with altitude shows altitude profile either. I am sure this used to work before.

Is this a known issue now?

isazi

@petmic yes, since a couple weeks.

Brad_Olwin

@petmic I am seeing the same, I believe Suunto knows about this.

petmic

@Brad_Olwin How nice would it be from them should they let us know. I spent an hour trying to import/draw a 50k route with some tricky navigation only to realize the problem seems to be on Suunto side.

freeheeler

@petmic
that’s Suunto, didn’t you know? something to play, a surprise, but unfortunately no chocolate

Brad_Olwin

@petmic said in Ambit 3 Peak uploading routes from website to app to watch:

@Brad_Olwin How nice would it be from them should they let us know. I spent an hour trying to import/draw a 50k route with some tricky navigation only to realize the problem seems to be on Suunto side.

@TELE-HO The problem is apparently with MapBox and not Suunto and Suunto is waiting for Mapbox to correct this. That is all the information that I have.