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    freeheeler @Efejota
    last edited by freeheeler 28 Oct 2022, 06:28

    @Efejota
    fully agree!
    if you can damage a product with an accessory from the same supplier, to me (personally!) it would be mandatory to either put a huge warning sign on the accessory itself or better: design the new interface so it doesn’t accept the potentially dangerous accessory.
    that’s my own view from machine engineering perspective

    edit: it is solved by software, as we have learned only short time later 🙂 👍

    living sideways

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      krakra Bronze Member @freeheeler
      last edited by krakra 28 Oct 2022, 06:38

      @freeheeler i ineed grap old s9p cable and use it but i got error on watch that i should use original cable. Did i damaged battery, or any other part of watch. 🤯😱

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        sartoric Moderator @krakra
        last edited by 28 Oct 2022, 07:29

        @krakra
        I suppose you didn’t, as you didn’t get any other error message 😁

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          isazi Moderator @Efejota
          last edited by 28 Oct 2022, 07:38

          @Efejota there is NO risk for the user. If they connect the old charger, a screen comes up saying something like “CHARGER NOT COMPATIBLE REMOVE”. And that’s it.

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            isazi Moderator @krakra
            last edited by 28 Oct 2022, 07:39

            @krakra no that error message is there for this exact reason, to let you know that you cannot charge with the old cable.

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              Dušan Ković @Brad_Olwin
              last edited by 28 Oct 2022, 07:43

              @Brad_Olwin said in Suunto 9 Peak Pro?:

              @Dušan-Ković The strong magnet charger for the S9Peak can brick the 9Pro so don’t use it. The 9Pro won’t accept charging from that adaptor for the reasons @isazi described.

              @isazi said in Suunto 9 Peak Pro?:

              @Efejota there is NO risk for the user. If they connect the old charger, a screen comes up saying something like “CHARGER NOT COMPATIBLE REMOVE”. And that’s it.

              We have two conflicting opinions.

              Are magnets a problem or not? Will the watch brick?

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                isazi Moderator @Dušan Ković
                last edited by 28 Oct 2022, 07:44

                @Dušan-Ković what two conflicting opinions, @Brad_Olwin said exactly that yesterday, that if you connect the S9PP to the old cable it will not charge and give you a warning.

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                  Dušan Ković @isazi
                  last edited by 28 Oct 2022, 07:45

                  @isazi He also said that watch will brick = die - not be usable again. Than you said there is NO risk for the user

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                    isazi Moderator @Dušan Ković
                    last edited by 28 Oct 2022, 07:48

                    @Dušan-Ković I said there is no risk because the watch will tell you that it cannot charge with the old cable. Suunto put in place this software measure to avoid people using the old cable, so people will not use the old cable (because it cannot charge your new watch) and there will be no harm.

                    Watch: Suunto Vertical Ti

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                      Egika Platinum Member @Dušan Ković
                      last edited by Egika 28 Oct 2022, 08:39

                      @Dušan-Ković said in Suunto 9 Peak Pro?:

                      @Brad_Olwin said in Suunto 9 Peak Pro?:

                      @Dušan-Ković The strong magnet charger for the S9Peak can brick the 9Pro so don’t use it. The 9Pro won’t accept charging from that adaptor for the reasons @isazi described.

                      @isazi said in Suunto 9 Peak Pro?:

                      @Efejota there is NO risk for the user. If they connect the old charger, a screen comes up saying something like “CHARGER NOT COMPATIBLE REMOVE”. And that’s it.

                      We have two conflicting opinions.

                      Are magnets a problem or not? Will the watch brick?

                      Technical explanation:
                      The GPS chip in the watch could be damaged Edit: rendered unusable in the case of:
                      Charger with strong magnet attached
                      AND
                      Charge current flowing.

                      As the watch is detecting the old charger it will show the warning and at the same time not start the charging current to flow. So everything is safe.

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                        MoeJito Bronze Member @freeheeler
                        last edited by 28 Oct 2022, 08:42

                        @freeheeler A much easier/safer way would be to pull the hazardous accessory from the market and replace the charger included in the S9P set with the new one.

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                          isazi Moderator @MoeJito
                          last edited by 28 Oct 2022, 08:44

                          @MoeJito please just read all messages and learn that nothing will happen to your new watch with an old charger, it will not even charge!
                          @Brad_Olwin was talking about watch prototypes before the new charger was even designed and produced!

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                            Spree Bronze Member @MoeJito
                            last edited by 28 Oct 2022, 08:44

                            @MoeJito Where do you get this impression that it would be “easier”?

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                              MoeJito Bronze Member @Dušan Ković
                              last edited by 28 Oct 2022, 08:49

                              @Dušan-Ković The user won’t get hurt (i.e. no electrical hazard to the user, no fire,…). The watch itself (i.e. electrical circuits) might get damaged based on information shared previously. From a (safety) risk management perspective this is considered a user inconvenience, but not a safety issue.

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                                dulko79 @Guest
                                last edited by 28 Oct 2022, 08:52

                                @mountainChris for gaps in the graph, did you maybe wear watch too tight or too loose during night? How are resources working for you?

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                                  isazi Moderator @dulko79
                                  last edited by 28 Oct 2022, 08:52

                                  @dulko79 @mountainChris gaps in HR during the night are known and being investigated.

                                  Watch: Suunto Vertical Ti

                                  Blog: isazi's home

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                                    Spree Bronze Member @MoeJito
                                    last edited by Spree 28 Oct 2022, 08:53

                                    @MoeJito I really don’t think anyone mentioned anything even close to there being any risk for the user? Electrical hazards, fire? Nothing about a “safety issue” has even been hinted to.

                                    I really am not getting this entire discussion at all. This watch comes with a compatible cable; nobody even mentioned that the older cable is compatible, and actually there is a specific warning not to use any other cable. The watch itself will tell you not to use the wrong cable if you try.

                                    And it would be “easier” to create a massive recall of all the Suunto 9 Peak cables out there for no real reason?

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                                      trailcafe Bronze Member
                                      last edited by trailcafe 28 Oct 2022, 08:58

                                      Dear all,

                                      one question regarding backlight behaviour:

                                      I would like to have backlight wrist activation only during exercise and no backlight wrist activation during normal use. When I set it to training only, backlight is always enduring normal use. Maybe someone can give me an advise on how to set it up as I would like to have it?

                                      Summary:
                                      No wrist based backlight activation during normal use (but when I press a button backlight switches on)
                                      Wrist based backlight activation during exercise.

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                                        Spree Bronze Member @trailcafe
                                        last edited by 28 Oct 2022, 09:02

                                        @trailcafe This is what I have now, and it’s set up as follows.

                                        1. Standy => off
                                        2. Raise to wake => exercise only.

                                        This way backlight is never turned on unless you press a button in watch mode.

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                                          Mff73 @Egika
                                          last edited by 28 Oct 2022, 09:03

                                          @Egika
                                          thanks for this technical clarification.

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