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      Swaddy61 Silver Members
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      @slurpnik I’m a little puzzled about the UI lag, even though you are on the latest software. I had a Coros Apex Pro before the Vertical, and once I updated the SV firmware I would say the lag is no different to the Coros, and MUCH better than it was on the earlier firmware. Not sure how much faster it could be - there is ‘some’, but negligible. What watch did you have before?

      I certainly could not comment that it was the worst aspect of the watch!

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        slurpnik @Swaddy61
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        @Swaddy61 I had the first version of Garmin Instinct. Nothing fancy, pretty old now but did the job. You actually made me curious so I recorded these two videos where I think you can see the difference:

        This is SV:
        vertical.mp4

        and this is old Instinct:
        instinct.mp4

        But as I said, I am committed to getting used to it 🙂 In the grand scheme of things, it’s easier to get used to small lag than it is to deal with shorter battery life when in the mountains. It’s about tradeoffs, and I knew what I’m buying.

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          Swaddy61 Silver Members
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          @slurpnik In that case it is definitely good that you didn’t see the original lag with the old software!! Your video is an accurate representation, and obviously different things are important to different people. Either I am used to it, or found it so much better than before, that now it doesn’t even register as a lag.

          I came from the Coros, which was also a good watch, but overall I am much happier with the SV (still have the Coros as a spare) and it’s features / build quality etc.

          GPS accuracy, battery life and the Suunto App were big drivers for me to change to the SV. The SV isn’t perfect, but it is mighty close - for MY needs!

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            Tami999 Silver Members @slurpnik
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            @slurpnik said in Suunto Vertical is here:

            @Swaddy61 I had the first version of Garmin Instinct. Nothing fancy, pretty old now but did the job. You actually made me curious so I recorded these two videos where I think you can see the difference:

            This is SV:
            vertical.mp4

            and this is old Instinct:
            instinct.mp4

            But as I said, I am committed to getting used to it 🙂 In the grand scheme of things, it’s easier to get used to small lag than it is to deal with shorter battery life when in the mountains. It’s about tradeoffs, and I knew what I’m buying.

            Thanks for that! Yeah first time Suunto lag made me return my Peak 9. Than later i ordered Peak Pro 9, and just after few days I be able to buy Vertical solar with huuuge discount. I get used to lag a bit… well i think its not actually a lag, but low refresh rate when scrolling/using buttons (to save battery?). Watch response instant but animation seems laggy, like low refresh or something. The difference between SV and Instrinct is big!

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              slurpnik @Tami999
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              Update for 2.33.12
              Since I recorded the two videos above, Suunto has released a new update with better UI responsiveness, so I decided to record the same video on the new release:

              Previous version:
              vertical-2.30.38.mp4

              New version:
              vertical-2.33.12.mp4

              To be honest after the initial disappointment, after three days with the watch AND especially after this update, I would consider this issue resolved 🙂 (at least for me!) I hope this helps community and those who are reading and deciding.

              One more insight I wanted to share is about sleep tracking. Since I was sick, I was taking pills during night and I set an alarm on the watch for 4:30 in the morning to take medicine. After alarm woke me up, SV thought we’re done sleeping and showed me the morning report, however I just took the pills and went back to bed. When I actually woke up in the morning, the sleep length was adjusted, and all times were absolutely spot on!! I think I did quite a bit to confuse it, yet it worked very reliably. Very nice job with the algorithm!

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                Tami999 Silver Members @slurpnik
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                @slurpnik For me UI is much faster but not perfect (I get used to previous update UI speed). When You scroll down like once per 1-2s. Its perfect, but if u click like fast 5 clicks in row down button its lag a bit. Iam happy so far with today progress, and will dont mind if in future it even more speed up. Good work Suunto.

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                  slurpnik
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                  I apologize if this was mentioned, I tried searching forum for “icons” and no luck:

                  Is there any article that shows what various icons in activity screens mean on Vertical?

                  I found https://www.suunto.com/en-gb/Support/Product-support/suunto_spartan_sport/suunto_spartan_sport/getting-started/icons/ but it does not include the icons I don’t understand. Thank you in advance!

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                    isazi Moderator @slurpnik
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                    @slurpnik I believe that there is a link, but not sure where. If you want just share a screenshot and many people here will be able to help you.

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                      slurpnik @isazi
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                      @isazi Thank you, I’m not sure what the triangle inside semi-circle means:

                      sv-1.jpeg
                      sv-2.jpeg
                      sv-3.jpeg

                      I believe altitude is the mountain icon (but missing any units?), and ascent is arrow upwards icon. Although on one image arrow upwards is in meters (meters climbed?), in the other with % (steepness of the climb?).

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                        sartoric Moderator @slurpnik
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                        @slurpnik
                        It’s the speed icon

                        • instant
                        • vertical
                        • avg

                        the icon can be seen in the sport customization screen in SA

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                          slurpnik @sartoric
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                          @sartoric Thank you! I feel very stupid for asking these basic questions …

                          Where can I find the icon in sport customization in Suunto App? I am on iOS and haven’t seen any icons associated with fields. And what is unit of speed, m/s or km/h if I’m on metric system? Any idea why instant speed is negative when I’m not moving?

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                            sartoric Moderator @slurpnik
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                            @slurpnik
                            sorry I meant field description (so icon description)

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                              isazi Moderator @slurpnik
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                              @slurpnik said in Suunto Vertical is here:

                              Any idea why instant speed is negative when I’m not moving?

                              Because while GPS has good filters so that when you don’t move speed is zero, the barometer has not the same quality of filters (also the barometer has to deal with smaller scale than the GPS) so instant vertical speed is noisy when you do not move.

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                                slurpnik @sartoric
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                                @sartoric ah I think I know what you mean. However, these are from the default activity which is not customizable, so I wasn’t able to edit and see the description of the field with icon.

                                @isazi thank you for explanation. Note that also instant speed (which comes from GPS I suppose?) is negative at -74. If it said something like 0 km/h then it would be clear to me what it is, this way with icon and weird number I was confused.

                                Thanks again!

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                                  isazi Moderator @slurpnik
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                                  @slurpnik all fields you posted are vertical speed, not horizontal speed.

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                                    sartoric Moderator @isazi
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                                    @isazi
                                    yep …

                                    normal speed has the gauge arrow pointing right

                                    … I guess I’ve seen it’s the same as pace now … could it be possible ?

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                                      sebchastang Silver Members @Brad_Olwin
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                                      @Brad_Olwin Can someone please tell me if the altitude graph is now available on Suunto Vertical Solar watch face (instead of solar graph) ?
                                      Thanks!

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                                        renton82 Platinum Member @sebchastang
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                                        @sebchastang No, solar graph only.

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                                          sebchastang Silver Members @renton82
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                                          @renton82 Thanks. Is there any plan to make it available in the future?

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                                            renton82 Platinum Member @sebchastang
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                                            @sebchastang I hope so but I don’t know.

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