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    suuntastic Bronze Member @mikekoski490
    last edited by 17 May 2023, 13:17

    @mikekoski490 Thanks! Interesting. Do you still wear sometimes S9PP during night? Is it comfortable. I can’t stand it 24/7. Probably therefore microfiber strap is better…

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      v.sacre Silver Members @dombo
      last edited by 17 May 2023, 13:17

      @dombo I would say no. But I am not the expert for that topic 😉

      A3S | S9B | S9P | S9PP | Suunto Vertical Ti
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        mikekoski490 Bronze Member @suuntastic
        last edited by 17 May 2023, 13:22

        @suuntastic I do wear my S9PP to bed, and all other past watches - and will with the Vertical. Never bothered me. 🙂

        +1 on the microfiber strap. I love mine. Super comfy and durable so far too.

        Past Suuntos: X-Lander/Observer/T6/X9/X10/X6HR/CORES/Ambits/Spartan/9P/9PP Ti/Vertical Ti

        Current: Suunto Race Ti

        Past other GPS watches: Polar Vantage V; Garmin 6X Pro Solar; Coros Vertix 2

        Suunto App running on Google Pixel 8/Android 14

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          suuntastic Bronze Member @mikekoski490
          last edited by suuntastic 17 May 2023, 13:28

          @mikekoski490 I always thought, that the resting HR right after waking up ist most important and also a sign of recovery maybe nowadays also HRV. But having the whole HR graph ist maybe expert thing. And I can not imagine the benefit of knowing sleeping hours from watch. I know when I am going to bed and wakeing up and I can’t change more when already living a health lifestyle… But after all if there is an athlete use for OHR (I believe you), it should be there…

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            mikekoski490 Bronze Member @suuntastic
            last edited by mikekoski490 17 May 2023, 13:37

            @suuntastic Sounds like you are a naturally good sleeper! Some people aren’t and have lots of wake ups and sleep gaps so automatically tracking helps understand stress for training.

            Vertical also does increased HR recording which will help accuracy of those stress scores and can train accordingly.

            Past Suuntos: X-Lander/Observer/T6/X9/X10/X6HR/CORES/Ambits/Spartan/9P/9PP Ti/Vertical Ti

            Current: Suunto Race Ti

            Past other GPS watches: Polar Vantage V; Garmin 6X Pro Solar; Coros Vertix 2

            Suunto App running on Google Pixel 8/Android 14

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              Tieutieu Platinum Member
              last edited by 17 May 2023, 13:52

              I have a question concerning power and tss calculation.
              With my s9b tss was a hr calculated value for running activities. (I always run with the chest strap).
              Just went back from a 1h30 run that gives me usually around 80/90 tss with hr. With the vertical, tss is based on pwr by default, and there the value of tss is 123. If I change for hr based calculation, the value is going down to 81.
              I’m confused there is such this difference and so, don’t know wich tss calculation method to use…

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                taziden Gold Members @suuntastic
                last edited by 17 May 2023, 14:06

                @suuntastic said in Suunto Vertical is here:

                @mikekoski490 Thanks! Interesting. Do you still wear sometimes S9PP during night? Is it comfortable. I can’t stand it 24/7. Probably therefore microfiber strap is better…

                Can’t stand it with the silicon band. No problem with a nylon velcro one.

                S9PP

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                  dombo Bronze Member @isazi
                  last edited by dombo 17 May 2023, 14:24

                  @isazi yes, this is gamechanger! and it is worth to mention, that during pause you can change/add another sport app from option menu.

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                    isazi Moderator @dombo
                    last edited by 17 May 2023, 14:29

                    @dombo no need to pause, you can do it during the activity just by holding the middle button to enter the settings screen.

                    Watch: Suunto Vertical Ti

                    Blog: isazi's home

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                      Ivan De Rasis
                      last edited by 17 May 2023, 14:31

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                      Semplicemente spettacolare!!!

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                        herlas Silver Members @Tieutieu
                        last edited by herlas 17 May 2023, 14:36

                        @Tieutieu first off, these are completely different ways to measure TSS.

                        have you configured anything in your watch in regards to power zones for running?

                        Long history short, TSS is calculated using formula: TSS = (sec x NP® x IF®)/(FTP x 3600) x 100

                        The important metric here is FTP, which is the best effort in average watts a runner can hold for 60 mins straight only.

                        You’ll need to do test to find what your current running FTP is, I use Stryd power meter so I get FTP (CP in Stryd terms) from them. In your case, you can do known field tests like 3/9 test or 30 time trial to get this, or even try S+ FTP Test, this is for cycling but it can apply here as an initial reference.

                        Once you have this FTP number, you set your power zones making sure this number is your z4 upper limit in your Suunto power zones for running.

                        Suunto is missing the key feature of allowing us to set FTP value alone, this is available in TrainingPeaks though.

                        Once at least you do this, you won’t get any meaningful TSS based on power.

                        If you want to explore power based TSS, highly recommend opening a TP free account and playing there too.

                        Hope this helps

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                        A3P (drill mode for pool swimming 🤦🤷)
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                          Tieutieu Platinum Member @herlas
                          last edited by 17 May 2023, 14:53

                          @herlas said in Suunto Vertical is here:

                          Hope this helps

                          Wow ! Thanks a lot ! So I’ll take time to set everything properly, and until then I’ll set to tss hr calculation to keep « known values ».

                          🙏 🙏

                          Suunto’s devices at home :
                          Vertical titanium solar
                          Suunto Race S
                          S9pp titanium sand
                          Suunto Wing
                          S9B titanium Ambassador edition, A3P, X6

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                            suuntastic Bronze Member @mikekoski490
                            last edited by suuntastic 17 May 2023, 15:14

                            @mikekoski490 Let’s call Non-OHR Version then not “athlete version”. Let’s call it “adventure edition” or Suunto Ambit (next gen) 🙂 But probably won’t came true…

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                              mikekoski490 Bronze Member @suuntastic
                              last edited by 17 May 2023, 15:20

                              @suuntastic Maybe! I think if they launched a watch without OHR, all the reviewers would be like '…and what’s with the bezel, price point, and WTF - no OHR!!! What was Suunto thinking!!! So 1998…"

                              😬 😁 😅

                              Past Suuntos: X-Lander/Observer/T6/X9/X10/X6HR/CORES/Ambits/Spartan/9P/9PP Ti/Vertical Ti

                              Current: Suunto Race Ti

                              Past other GPS watches: Polar Vantage V; Garmin 6X Pro Solar; Coros Vertix 2

                              Suunto App running on Google Pixel 8/Android 14

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                                suuntastic Bronze Member @mikekoski490
                                last edited by 17 May 2023, 15:22

                                @mikekoski490 unfortunately probably

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                                  A Former User @Guest
                                  last edited by A Former User 17 May 2023, 15:24

                                  @tomasbartko will wait for the “gentleman” edition/Suunto 10 in about 6 month. Will have all the SV features in S9PP size at a lower price point, :dreaming:

                                  @tomasbartko said in Suunto Vertical is here:

                                  Spot a difference… 😰

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                                    TyreseJ4
                                    last edited by 17 May 2023, 16:54

                                    Is there a reason why Suunto devices are still not being listed in Strava? It’s been this way for some time now.

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                                      zhang965 @TyreseJ4
                                      last edited by 17 May 2023, 17:01

                                      @TyreseJ4 said in Suunto Vertical is here:

                                      Is there a reason why Suunto devices are still not being listed in Strava? It’s been this way for some time now.

                                      You can rename your shoes as suunto vertical, and select your shoes for the move

                                      Winners Wear Winners

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                                        Dimitrios Kanellopoulos Community Manager @TyreseJ4
                                        last edited by 17 May 2023, 17:03

                                        @TyreseJ4 we had contacted Strava but it seems they are slow

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                                          Brad_Olwin Moderator @Tieutieu
                                          last edited by 17 May 2023, 17:33

                                          @Tieutieu are your power zones set correctly? You can set separate zones for running.

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