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    herlas Silver Members @Tieutieu
    last edited by herlas 17 May 2023, 14:36

    @Tieutieu first off, these are completely different ways to measure TSS.

    have you configured anything in your watch in regards to power zones for running?

    Long history short, TSS is calculated using formula: TSS = (sec x NP® x IF®)/(FTP x 3600) x 100

    The important metric here is FTP, which is the best effort in average watts a runner can hold for 60 mins straight only.

    You’ll need to do test to find what your current running FTP is, I use Stryd power meter so I get FTP (CP in Stryd terms) from them. In your case, you can do known field tests like 3/9 test or 30 time trial to get this, or even try S+ FTP Test, this is for cycling but it can apply here as an initial reference.

    Once you have this FTP number, you set your power zones making sure this number is your z4 upper limit in your Suunto power zones for running.

    Suunto is missing the key feature of allowing us to set FTP value alone, this is available in TrainingPeaks though.

    Once at least you do this, you won’t get any meaningful TSS based on power.

    If you want to explore power based TSS, highly recommend opening a TP free account and playing there too.

    Hope this helps

    SRS Ti
    A3P (drill mode for pool swimming 🤦🤷)
    Galaxy Z Flip 3 / Galaxy S24+

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      Tieutieu Platinum Member @herlas
      last edited by 17 May 2023, 14:53

      @herlas said in Suunto Vertical is here:

      Hope this helps

      Wow ! Thanks a lot ! So I’ll take time to set everything properly, and until then I’ll set to tss hr calculation to keep « known values ».

      🙏 🙏

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        suuntastic Bronze Member @mikekoski490
        last edited by suuntastic 17 May 2023, 15:14

        @mikekoski490 Let’s call Non-OHR Version then not “athlete version”. Let’s call it “adventure edition” or Suunto Ambit (next gen) 🙂 But probably won’t came true…

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          mikekoski490 Bronze Member @suuntastic
          last edited by 17 May 2023, 15:20

          @suuntastic Maybe! I think if they launched a watch without OHR, all the reviewers would be like '…and what’s with the bezel, price point, and WTF - no OHR!!! What was Suunto thinking!!! So 1998…"

          😬 😁 😅

          Past Suuntos: X-Lander/Observer/T6/X9/X10/X6HR/CORES/Ambits/Spartan/9P/9PP Ti/Vertical Ti

          Current: Suunto Race Ti

          Past other GPS watches: Polar Vantage V; Garmin 6X Pro Solar; Coros Vertix 2

          Suunto App running on Google Pixel 8/Android 14

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            suuntastic Bronze Member @mikekoski490
            last edited by 17 May 2023, 15:22

            @mikekoski490 unfortunately probably

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              A Former User @Guest
              last edited by A Former User 17 May 2023, 15:24

              @tomasbartko will wait for the “gentleman” edition/Suunto 10 in about 6 month. Will have all the SV features in S9PP size at a lower price point, :dreaming:

              @tomasbartko said in Suunto Vertical is here:

              Spot a difference… 😰

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                TyreseJ4
                last edited by 17 May 2023, 16:54

                Is there a reason why Suunto devices are still not being listed in Strava? It’s been this way for some time now.

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                  zhang965 @TyreseJ4
                  last edited by 17 May 2023, 17:01

                  @TyreseJ4 said in Suunto Vertical is here:

                  Is there a reason why Suunto devices are still not being listed in Strava? It’s been this way for some time now.

                  You can rename your shoes as suunto vertical, and select your shoes for the move

                  Winners Wear Winners

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                    Dimitrios Kanellopoulos Community Manager @TyreseJ4
                    last edited by 17 May 2023, 17:03

                    @TyreseJ4 we had contacted Strava but it seems they are slow

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                      Brad_Olwin Moderator @Tieutieu
                      last edited by 17 May 2023, 17:33

                      @Tieutieu are your power zones set correctly? You can set separate zones for running.

                      Vector/T6c/Ambit 3 Peak/S5 Copper/S3/S7 Ti/S9 baro Ti/S9P Ti/S9PP Ti/Vertical Ti/Race Ti/RaceS/Ocean/Wing

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                        trailcafe Bronze Member @freeheeler
                        last edited by 17 May 2023, 17:43

                        @freeheeler @coqiner
                        just checked my sand watch and there is only one strap size in it

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                          TyreseJ4 @zhang965
                          last edited by TyreseJ4 17 May 2023, 17:54

                          @zhang965 I don’t have a Suunto Vertical and will never have one. I think I’ll stick with Garmin. This is just something I’ve noticed on Strava with the Peak Pro and the new Suunto Vertical.

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                            zhang965 @TyreseJ4
                            last edited by 17 May 2023, 17:59

                            @TyreseJ4 said in Suunto Vertical is here:

                            @zhang965 I don’t have a Suunto Vertical and will never have one. I think I’ll stick with Garmin. This is just something I’ve noticed on Strava with the Peak Pro and the new Suunto Vertical.

                            Damn, you give envy to possess a Garmin.

                            BTW I did a comparison of 9pp and vertical, 9pp sucks at 360°

                            Winners Wear Winners

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                              TyreseJ4 @zhang965
                              last edited by 17 May 2023, 18:02

                              @zhang965 I can’t afford to have ‘‘em all.

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                                zhang965 @TyreseJ4
                                last edited by 17 May 2023, 18:06

                                @TyreseJ4 said in Suunto Vertical is here:

                                @zhang965 I can’t afford to have ‘‘em all.

                                Wait for special deal, + discount code + PayPal 4 times payment.will be a good deal

                                Vertical is not yet finished, you can wait till it became stable

                                Winners Wear Winners

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                                  TyreseJ4 @zhang965
                                  last edited by TyreseJ4 17 May 2023, 18:18

                                  @zhang965 But that’s kinda my point. Right now I’m using a new Fenix 6x. When the time comes I’ll need money to upgrade to the 7x or the Enduro 2 when Garmin releases something new; which it’s my understanding they’ll be releasing an updated Fenix 7 and Epix 2 in a month or 2. Unlike others who can afford to buy multiple watches from multiple brands, I have to pick one…and I’m ok with that. However with that said I think with the release of the Suunto Vertical, Suunto has possibly overtaken Polar (and possibly Coros). Now that’s just based on the quality of the product itself. Of course sales will tell a different story. Does anyone know how well the Suunto Vertical is selling world wide?

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                                    A Former User @TyreseJ4
                                    last edited by 17 May 2023, 18:33

                                    @TyreseJ4 said in Suunto Vertical is here:

                                    Does anyone know how well the the Suunto Vertical is selling world wide?

                                    I think it’s selling great. Amazon apparently sold me a unit they didn’t even have – I pre-ordered the moment it was announced long before things got to items remaining count, let alone out of stock – and it wasn’t until I got through their retarded bots to a human rep an hour ago they copped out they are completely out of stock on orange Ti and the “delivers 05/17” and “shipping now” and all that jazz in the order status was just a bullcrap.

                                    “Here’s a $35 gift certificate for your future orders at Amazon” 😭

                                    Even worse, I can’t cancel the stupid order there. Because you know, it’s shipping now! 😨

                                    They talk about Miami Minute, probably there should be Amazon Now defined as a period of time 24-48 hours or longer depending on support team to which the issue has been escalated.

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                                      mikekoski490 Bronze Member @Guest
                                      last edited by 17 May 2023, 18:50

                                      @NickK Same situation here for me with Amazon dot CA.

                                      Not shipped and when chatted to customer service they just said should arrive May 23.

                                      Should I escalate further?

                                      I don’t want to cancel because when I ordered it was for some reason 50 cheaper than a few hours later.

                                      Past Suuntos: X-Lander/Observer/T6/X9/X10/X6HR/CORES/Ambits/Spartan/9P/9PP Ti/Vertical Ti

                                      Current: Suunto Race Ti

                                      Past other GPS watches: Polar Vantage V; Garmin 6X Pro Solar; Coros Vertix 2

                                      Suunto App running on Google Pixel 8/Android 14

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                                        A Former User @mikekoski490
                                        last edited by 17 May 2023, 18:56

                                        @mikekoski490 Amazon will probably honor your 05/23 date as the first wave of shipments will have been done by then and they’d claw themselves some new stock. Hopefully, your purchase and delivery would go better than mine!

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                                          zhang965 @TyreseJ4
                                          last edited by 17 May 2023, 19:04

                                          @TyreseJ4 said in Suunto Vertical is here:

                                          @zhang965 But that’s kinda my point. Right now I’m using a new Fenix 6x. When the time comes I’ll need money to upgrade to the 7x or the Enduro 2 when Garmin releases something new; which it’s my understanding they’ll be releasing an updated Fenix 7 and Epix 2 in a month or 2. Unlike others who can afford to buy multiple watches from multiple brands, I have to pick one…and I’m ok with that. However with that said I think with the release of the Suunto Vertical, Suunto has possibly overtaken Polar (and possibly Coros). Now that’s just based on the quality of the product itself. Of course sales will tell a different story. Does anyone know how well the Suunto Vertical is selling world wide?

                                          Ok but I don’t have multiple brands watches… And I saw vertical has been pre ordered… about 50 in china market so far…

                                          Winners Wear Winners

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