Suunto Vertical: Bug Collection
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Hi @Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos, really exiting news to ear that Suunto will move away from Firstbeat… Is there anything that can be share? Which metrics? Which watches?
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Suunto: Race, S9Peak, Spartan Sport Wrist
Garmin: FR745, Edge 530
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@suzzlo said in Suunto Vertical: Bug Collection:
really exiting news to ear that Suunto will move away from Firstbeat
I agree but I forsee a lot of complains on this forum about the removal of Firstbeat. For most amateur athletes Firstbeat is, in their opnion, a guidence god. If it is not in the watch, it’s not a good watch.
Suunto Vertical Titanium Solar
OnePlus Nord 4 -
When following a preloaded course, the directions shown on the map are clear and correct but the advise of an incoming turn at the bottom of the screen is very often wrong as it wants you to take the exact opposite direction (ex. left turn when the map shows a turn on the right)…
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@surfboomerang According to this guy (https://www.youtube.com/@TheQuantifiedScientist) all the garmin watches perform poorly when talking about sleep analysis, so this can be seen as a pros for removal the fb.
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@Dante-Mclalla are you sure you are following the route in direction it was planned? this is known when you go reverse.
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@dombo I’m pretty sure as it did happen more than once. The route is right but there is just an inconsistency between the map and the advise at the bottom of the page of the incoming turn which is in the opposite direction!
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@Dante-Mclalla never happened to me, unless going the opposite direction
The turn-by-turn directions are not from the map, are waypoints inserted by the app on the route itself based on the direction that you used at creation, i.e. from A to B.
Are you following a route that starts and ends in the same spot? If so, you are going the opposite direction -
@Dante-Mclalla Is your route possibly a circular one?
If start and end point are close to each other I found that the watch tends to think I am going from end to start.
As the turn notifications are hard coded in the route information it will just show the information stored when approaching a turn, regardless the direction you are coming from.I already filed a bug, so that with circular routes the watch will assume you start at the start.
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@Egika the start and end point are 2km far from each other. It may be correct your assumption, the TbT directions just suggest the shortest route to the end point which in that case was left instead of right…
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@Dante-Mclalla if your route is not a loop, and you are going from A to B all the time, than the app is creating the wrong waypoints. Can you share an example route with this behavior?
Watch: Suunto Vertical Ti
Blog: isazi's home
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This is fantastic news I cannot wait to see what suunto come up with. Hopefully they are working on algorithms to account for elevation gain vs heart rate to count towards V02max for those of us running in the mountains not in flat ground.
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@isazi yes sure, can you suggest how to?
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@Dante-Mclalla send me a PM
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@Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos Thanks for the info, I am looking forward to Suuntos own implementation
I am wondering why not everyone has those bugs (restarts). Until those are fixed, if there is any workaround (disabling some settings, whatever), let us know -
O2-widget have some font problem. On ”Happisaturaatio” last O drops to second line. Otherwise it’s working normally.
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@Jugger Thx. There is the same or similar happening in other languages as well (German for example).
There is no hyphenation support in the firmware, so this can be resolved only if we come up with a shorter word.
If you have a suggestion I can forward it. -
@Kk2n-Kk Good luck there. I have a 3-year-old Vertix that ran out of barometer and many issues with the digital knob. They do not have tech support out of warranty. By another watch - 600€
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@Egika It seems two textlines are supported so:
Happi-
Saturaatio
Could make it on different lines if ”O” can already be on other line. In S9PP ”o2” logo was on top? -
@surfboomerang To those who think they will miss firstbeat… just know that firstbeat is since a couple of year now property of garmin. So suunto is paying Garmin to have that crap in the end.
More importantly:deep learning is deep learning whatever name you put on top of it.
So stay assured Suunto will come up with physiological algorithm that will be as good or better than firstbeat’s. -
Finally I could go testing my Vertical in the mountains. Reading this post and yesterday’s session made me think that Vertical is the buggiest Suunto since I use Suuntos.
No doubt that in this respect, Garmin is dragging everybody down in quality.
Without knowing, also suunto customers will become beta testers at their own expenses. This will be the price of faster development cycle.
Having said that, here are my two cents:
During a trail run session with S+ climb and S+Burner enabled, autolap data screen was showing only the lap time. The other info were presented blank/null.
It was cloudy and raining all the time,still the track was impressive.
I enjoyed a lot training with Vertical. I think I will not get back to my beloved S9PP ( a fantastic watch as well for me)Well done suunto. I forgive you for your garminization if this is the price to stay in the market. Keep it up!
