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    Maryn Silver Members @jjpaz
    last edited by 3 Nov 2023, 07:43

    @jjpaz today I had a 20% drop over night. New device.

    Suunto Vertical, Suunto Race, Edge 530, Vantage V, Suunto Wings, Polar H10&Verity Sense

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      EzioAuditore Gold Members @Maryn
      last edited by 3 Nov 2023, 11:41

      @Marcin-Byrtek I think the first few charges the battery ‘calibrates’ and the 20% drop is not actually ‘true’.

      Suunto watches: Ocean (Sand), Race (Titanium Charcoal), Vertical (Titanium Solar Sand), 9 Baro (Ambassador Edition), Spartan Ultra (Copper Edition), Ambit 2, S6
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        Brad_Olwin Moderator @jjpaz
        last edited by 4 Nov 2023, 15:18

        @jjpaz It is possible the battery was lower than indicated, the touch was turned off. When very low these types of batteries can deplete quickly. So this may not be a bug as your watch may have shut down once on the charger.

        Vector/T6c/Ambit 3 Peak/S5 Copper/S3/S7 Ti/S9 baro Ti/S9P Ti/S9PP Ti/Vertical Ti/Race Ti/RaceS/Ocean/Wing

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          jjpaz Bronze Member @Brad_Olwin
          last edited by 4 Nov 2023, 16:32

          @Brad_Olwin It didn’t turn off, it restarted. I didn’t touch the watch. And battery level when charging started from the level it was before restarting, 18%.
          So, it’s not a bug but watch didn’t show the correct battery level? Is that right? So, according to this, I can’t trust the battery level the watch shows. Perfect!
          I think the answer is easier: there was some issue that cause the touchscreen not working and the reboot.

          Suunto T3D, Suunto Spartan Trainer, Suunto Spartan Ultra (retired), Suunto 9 Baro (retired), Suunto 9 Peak (retired), Suunto Vertical Titanium Solar, Suunto Race S.

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            Brad_Olwin Moderator @jjpaz
            last edited by 4 Nov 2023, 18:05

            @jjpaz Could be. I’m not sure. Was just a suggestion.

            Vector/T6c/Ambit 3 Peak/S5 Copper/S3/S7 Ti/S9 baro Ti/S9P Ti/S9PP Ti/Vertical Ti/Race Ti/RaceS/Ocean/Wing

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              mikekoski490 Bronze Member
              last edited by 4 Nov 2023, 18:18

              Just thought I would pop this in here, as I know some people have said “Im thinking of switching to Polar!” Just to put the big ecosystem of all watches have issues in perspective. Taken from the Polar users FB page:

              Users of Polar Vantage V & V2 and V3.
              · 2h ·
              3 times during training my new V3 crashed (needed to setup as new device afterwards) - App and watch on newest release. Anybody experienced similar issues?

              Past Suuntos: X-Lander/Observer/T6/X9/X10/X6HR/CORES/Ambits/Spartan/9P/9PP Ti/Vertical Ti

              Current: Suunto Race Ti

              Past other GPS watches: Polar Vantage V; Garmin 6X Pro Solar; Coros Vertix 2

              Suunto App running on Google Pixel 8/Android 14

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                ChrisA Platinum Member @mikekoski490
                last edited by 4 Nov 2023, 18:45

                @mikekoski490 Polar watches were quite basic, relating to features (even less watch faces, no loadable apps, only four data fields and limited data to display etc.) But (at least mine) were running extremely stable! Could be, that with more and more features added, chances raise, that more and more things could go wrong. I recall somebody with IT background here in the forum saying, that adding a little bit here and a little bit there might sound easy to do, but isn’t so easy in reality 🤔.

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                  jjpaz Bronze Member @Brad_Olwin
                  last edited by 4 Nov 2023, 18:54

                  @Brad_Olwin Thank you for the suggestion.
                  I explained the issue just for help if anybody suffers same behaviour.
                  For me, in case of that, is just a small bug because it hasn’t happened during activity.
                  “During activity” crashed are the worst issues (only happened once in more than 5 months using SV)

                  Suunto T3D, Suunto Spartan Trainer, Suunto Spartan Ultra (retired), Suunto 9 Baro (retired), Suunto 9 Peak (retired), Suunto Vertical Titanium Solar, Suunto Race S.

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                    jjpaz Bronze Member @ChrisA
                    last edited by 4 Nov 2023, 19:01

                    @ChrisA Sure. New Suunto watches are becoming less stable since SuuntoApps inclusion and since maps inclusion. New features working together can cause random behaviours.
                    In that case the optimal way is to be able to detect and correct that issues and fast.
                    Let’s see if the promised software update is worth waiting for.

                    Suunto T3D, Suunto Spartan Trainer, Suunto Spartan Ultra (retired), Suunto 9 Baro (retired), Suunto 9 Peak (retired), Suunto Vertical Titanium Solar, Suunto Race S.

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                      inkognito Platinum Member
                      last edited by inkognito 11 Sept 2023, 09:38 9 Nov 2023, 09:36

                      Cute little bug (or perhaps take this as suggestion for improvement):
                      When I use sunrise/sunset field on the “altitude-chart” watchface, it automatically switches to sunrise field after sunset. This is pretty cool. But it shows “today’s sunrise”, not “next sunrise”. Before midnight, you are looking at the outdated sunrise time which can be several minutes behind/ahead…
                      E.g.
                      Yesterday at 23:59, it showed sunrise 7:04 (= outdated one)
                      Two minutes later at 0:01, it showed 7:06.

                      Could this be improved to always show the next sunrise? Nitpicking, I know 😄

                      SV: fingers crossed :D
                      S9 (non-baro): died after 2 months, replaced, holding strong since 03/20
                      Spartan Trainer: casing broke after 23 months, repaired, lost watertightness 5 months later, died
                      Despite some pretty bad luck, I still love Suunto!

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                        pilleus
                        last edited by pilleus 13 Nov 2023, 10:47

                        Style selection “dark” in map settings does not differ from “outdoor” in my Vertical. Maps are working fine and without problems though. Reboot or soft reset does not resolve it.

                        Just to report it, I didn’t read all the topics about offline maps … 👓

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                        Suunto Vertical Black Lime
                        Suunto 9 Peak Pro Black
                        Suunto Spartan Ultra Stealth Titanium

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                          Egika Platinum Member @pilleus
                          last edited by 13 Nov 2023, 12:05

                          @pilleus said in Suunto Vertical: Bug Collection:

                          Style selection “dark” in map settings does not differ from “outdoor” in my Vertical. Maps are working fine and without problems though. Reboot or soft reset does not resolve it.

                          Just to report it, I didn’t read all the topics about offline maps … 👓

                          thank you!
                          actually the first time I hear this. Is it he same after a reboot of the watch (and finally after deleting and re-downloading the respective map?

                          t6, S6, Elementum Terra, Ambit 3 Sapphire, Spartan Ultra Copper, Traverse Alpha, S7 Graphite LE, S9B Ambassador, S9P Granite Blue Titanium, S9PP Titanium Sand, Vertical All Black, Race Titanium Charcoal,
                          Race S All Black - TI Canary - Titanium Courtney

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                            pilleus @Egika
                            last edited by pilleus 13 Nov 2023, 13:03

                            @Egika

                            I may be assuming something wrong … the only difference between “dark” to “outdoor” is a light darker rendering of the colors. I can see it when I zoom out to 500 m. For me “dark” means “black with white streets and dark coloured areas”.

                            The downloaded tile is okay and a reboot does not change anything.

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                            Suunto Vertical Black Lime
                            Suunto 9 Peak Pro Black
                            Suunto Spartan Ultra Stealth Titanium

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                              Egika Platinum Member @pilleus
                              last edited by 13 Nov 2023, 13:38

                              @pilleus
                              Do I understand that you do indeed see differences?

                              the difference between Outdoor and Dark on Vertical indeed is not like inverted display. Streets are white in both modes.
                              Just other details rendered differently:

                              • trails are dark in Outdoor and light in Dark
                              • Background is lighter in Outdoor and darker in Dark
                              • buildings are dark in Outdoor and light in Dark
                              • water bodies are darker in Dark

                              t6, S6, Elementum Terra, Ambit 3 Sapphire, Spartan Ultra Copper, Traverse Alpha, S7 Graphite LE, S9B Ambassador, S9P Granite Blue Titanium, S9PP Titanium Sand, Vertical All Black, Race Titanium Charcoal,
                              Race S All Black - TI Canary - Titanium Courtney

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                                pilleus @Egika
                                last edited by pilleus 13 Nov 2023, 13:54

                                @Egika

                                I can see differences if I know where these are …

                                1 and 2 in “outdoor”
                                3 and 4 in “dark”

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                                  LitchiMonster Bronze Member @LitchiMonster
                                  last edited by 24 Nov 2023, 20:52

                                  @LitchiMonster the intensity zone screen still does not work properly with latest firmware, as described in my previous post, if anyone was wondering 🙂

                                  Suunto 9 Baro black
                                  Suunto Vertical Titanium Solar

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                                    Michaël POINTEAU
                                    last edited by Michaël POINTEAU 28 Nov 2023, 13:37

                                    So I believe we can call it a bug.

                                    Laps are not reachable on watch activity logs for activities before the last update (2.30.26).

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                                      Egika Platinum Member @Michaël POINTEAU
                                      last edited by 28 Nov 2023, 14:12

                                      @Michaël-POINTEAU this is not really a bug, as it is by design.
                                      Activities completed before a firmware update are somehow compressed. This comes with laps being not available and also the graph in the summary screen does disappear in the log book in the watch.

                                      t6, S6, Elementum Terra, Ambit 3 Sapphire, Spartan Ultra Copper, Traverse Alpha, S7 Graphite LE, S9B Ambassador, S9P Granite Blue Titanium, S9PP Titanium Sand, Vertical All Black, Race Titanium Charcoal,
                                      Race S All Black - TI Canary - Titanium Courtney

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                                        Mff73 @Michaël POINTEAU
                                        last edited by 28 Nov 2023, 14:51

                                        @Michaël-POINTEAU said in Suunto Vertical: Bug Collection:

                                        So I believe we can call it a bug.

                                        Laps are not reachable on watch activity logs for activities before the last update (2.30.26).

                                        as @Egika wrote : it always has been like this : after a FW update, details of past activities in watch logbook are no more available.

                                        but, another question comes to me :
                                        @Egika , with the new change where activities are stored in emmc, will the situation still be the same ? (details remaining after FW update)

                                        Suunto Spartan Ultra (since 2016) FW: 2.8.24 (retired)
                                        Suunto Vertical all black
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                                          Michaël POINTEAU @Mff73
                                          last edited by 28 Nov 2023, 17:14

                                          @Mff73 weird. With my Ambit 3 peak I don’t remember this.

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