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    mikekoski490 Bronze Member @zhang965
    last edited by 27 Aug 2023, 23:30

    @zhang965 Excellent! Glad you will be heading over to the Garmin Forum now! Garmin users complain about their devices and Garmins lack of support there so your great wit will be a welcome ray of sunshine I’m sure. 🎉

    Past Suuntos: X-Lander/Observer/T6/X9/X10/X6HR/CORES/Ambits/Spartan/9P/9PP Ti/Vertical Ti

    Current: Suunto Race Ti

    Past other GPS watches: Polar Vantage V; Garmin 6X Pro Solar; Coros Vertix 2

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      isazi Moderator @Likarnik
      last edited by 28 Aug 2023, 09:31

      @Likarnik I have not seen the black grid on the testing firmware for a long time. Unfortunately, I have also never seen it on my production Vertical, so it may just be that the places where I travel have no issues. Anyway, from the bug-tracking system that is accessible to external testers, I see that developers fixed bugs that were causing the “black grid of death”. So, hopefully this is also a thing of the past.

      Watch: Suunto Vertical Ti

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        Likarnik Bronze Member @isazi
        last edited by 28 Aug 2023, 09:45

        @isazi Hope so. Also hope we don’t have to wait until end of the year to push this to production.

        BTW, I created a route in Komoot, is this their fault or suuntos?

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        This is from SA (pushed from Komoot). perfect overlay (as I said, out and back route):
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          isazi Moderator @Likarnik
          last edited by 28 Aug 2023, 09:54

          @Likarnik said in No-Map-Problem:

          @isazi Hope so. Also hope we don’t have to wait until end of the year to push this to production.

          I hope the same, but have no clue about the release.

          BTW, I created a route in Komoot, is this their fault or suuntos?

          Strange, could be the watch rendering, or the fact that the route is simplified (points pruning) during transfer to watch.

          Watch: Suunto Vertical Ti

          Blog: isazi's home

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            A Former User @isazi
            last edited by 28 Aug 2023, 13:39

            @isazi I don’t see the black grid of death but a white background with a few brown lines and nothing else.

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              isazi Moderator @Guest
              last edited by 28 Aug 2023, 13:44

              @Ilya-Sul never seen that, can you share a picture?

              Watch: Suunto Vertical Ti

              Blog: isazi's home

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                A Former User @isazi
                last edited by 28 Aug 2023, 13:48

                @isazi Yes, need to get home first, though.

                The brown lines were also present when the map was displayed correctly (before the reset). I don’t know if they’re supposed to be contour lines or something…

                I already restarted the watch, re-downloaded the maps and reset the SV several times. Nothing seems to help.

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                  laurent92m @Brad_Olwin
                  last edited by laurent92m 28 Aug 2023, 13:51

                  @Brad_Olwin

                  Hello Brad,

                  So, this week-end,I moved for the first time with the watch to the Nantes region and the map (Pays de la Loire) was not working. ( black grid on the watch).
                  I applied the 2 steps ( soft reset + calibrate compass) and then the map was available on the watch.
                  Moving back to Paris, Paris map was hopefully still working fine with the watch…

                  The coming weekend, I will use the watch for the first time in the Alps, going through 3 differents Suunto maps and I expect to see only the first map to work after having done the usual soft reset + calibrate compass before starting…

                  Will let you know the result in a week time

                  Have a nice week
                  Laurent

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                    Brad_Olwin Moderator @laurent92m
                    last edited by 28 Aug 2023, 14:08

                    @laurent92m I have now had the black grid problem with field test firmware as well. I reported this and am going to test my production watch as well. Keep me posted on this as I will aggressively pursue it. I am also not happy when this happens but it is darn near impossible to reproduce.

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                      A Former User @isazi
                      last edited by 28 Aug 2023, 18:54

                      @isazi
                      20230828_204928.jpg

                      That’s all that shows up. Needless to say, that’s not what my hometown looks like.

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                        A Former User @Guest
                        last edited by 29 Aug 2023, 07:48

                        @Ilya-Sul

                        I scrolled around until I ended up in a different federal state (took some time) and guess what, the map for the adjoining downloaded region shows up. It seems like the map for my federal state in Germany is broken. Great.

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                          Egika Platinum Member @Guest
                          last edited by 29 Aug 2023, 07:52

                          @Ilya-Sul which state is it?

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                            A Former User @Egika
                            last edited by 29 Aug 2023, 08:12

                            @Egika Don’t wanna disclose that on a public forum. 😬 I’ll contact support about it when I got the time.

                            It definitely worked when I bought the watch and downloaded the map for the first time.

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                              jjpaz Bronze Member @Brad_Olwin
                              last edited by jjpaz 29 Aug 2023, 08:42

                              @Brad_Olwin I have suffered the “black grid” problem only one time. I don’t know if it has relationship with the problem but before I started the activity with the “no map” issue, the HR widget graph was not working. It seems that the watch stopped “painting” the HR graph several hours before.
                              So perhaps the watch runs out of memory or something like that and is not able to “paint” some graphs and the map.
                              After reset the watch frees memory and the issue is “solved”.
                              Perhaps you can verify if the behavior is similar in case of new “black grid” problems.

                              Suunto T3D, Suunto Spartan Trainer, Suunto Spartan Ultra (retired), Suunto 9 Baro (retired), Suunto 9 Peak (retired), Suunto Vertical Titanium Solar, Suunto Race S.

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                                surfboomerang @jjpaz
                                last edited by 29 Aug 2023, 12:00

                                @jjpaz Same experience for me. When I just got the watch I installed some maps. Occasionally I had some semi black grid issues. Only some tiles were missing.
                                After a soft-reset, I never encountered the issue again.

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                                OnePlus Nord 4

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                                  A Former User @Guest
                                  last edited by 30 Aug 2023, 07:40

                                  @Ilya-Sul I contacted support. Support is gonna forward my issue to engineering. Let’s see. I hope the problem’s with the map itself. Otherwise, I don’t have much hope that the issue will be fixed before my upcoming vacation.

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                                    laurent92m @Guest
                                    last edited by 30 Aug 2023, 13:02

                                    @Ilya-Sul

                                    Hello,
                                    One thought: as soon as you add a map and before using it for the first time (meaning you are inside this area physically with the watch) you might have to go through steps 1 & 2 below:

                                    1 - Soft reset of the watch (Press 12 sec top right button)
                                    2 - Calibrate compass

                                    At least, it is the case for me…

                                    BR
                                    Laurent

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                                      A Former User @laurent92m
                                      last edited by 30 Aug 2023, 13:57

                                      @laurent92m

                                      Appreciate the help.

                                      Doesn’t help, though. I already tried all the regular trouble shooting options. I’ve calibrated and reset this watch enough times already.

                                      Support wanted me to factory reset the watch again (after having done so 3 times already) and I respectfully declined. I’m not willing to invest so much of my free time here.

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                                        Mff73 @Guest
                                        last edited by 30 Aug 2023, 14:02

                                        @Ilya-Sul
                                        In your case, it looks more like a “bad map” issue, rather than “no map” issue.
                                        You seems to see something (but not what you expect ), while no map issue is really black screen with white grid.
                                        just guessing from what is shown.

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                                          A Former User @Mff73
                                          last edited by 30 Aug 2023, 18:07

                                          @Mff73

                                          Yes, it’s some part of the map for sure. But it might as well be no map. It did work when I set up the watch for the first time. All I can do now is wait.

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