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    surfboomerang @isazi
    last edited by 28 Aug 2024, 09:55

    @isazi said in Battery drain:

    And another smaller one in mere watch use without activities.

    Is it known what triggers this “smaller one”?

    Suunto Vertical Titanium Solar
    OnePlus Nord 4

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      jjpaz Bronze Member @surfboomerang
      last edited by 28 Aug 2024, 10:33

      @surfboomerang said in Battery drain:

      @isazi said in Battery drain:

      And another smaller one in mere watch use without activities.

      Is it known what triggers this “smaller one”?

      Watchfaces?

      Suunto T3D, Suunto Spartan Trainer, Suunto Spartan Ultra (retired), Suunto 9 Baro (retired), Suunto 9 Peak (retired), Suunto Vertical Titanium Solar, Suunto Race S.

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        enriqueescoms
        last edited by 28 Aug 2024, 12:13

        The drain battery issue in my case, with the 9PP, is when I’m wearing it.

        I usually only use the Suunto during sports activities. And there I don’t have battery problems. Not even when I leave it in the drawer until the next time (about 2-3%). The thing gets crooked, however, when it’s still on my wrist. There it begins to waste battery toooooo fast.

        For example, yesterday I rode a bike for about an hour (with active touchscreen and route navigation) and the consumption was 2%. Then it continued on my wrist (no notifications, with turn and light high and continuous hr) and there the thing got about 1% per hour (12% in total). I don’t particularly see it as a normal battery drain.

        I don’t know if the problem is in the turn and light high mode or what. I also don’t know if this is the ones you are referring to for the SV and SR. But be that as it may, I wanted to expose my case in case it would help.

        Suunto 9 Peak Pro (all black version)

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          jjpaz Bronze Member @enriqueescoms
          last edited by 28 Aug 2024, 12:58

          @enriqueescoms said in Battery drain:

          For example, yesterday I rode a bike for about an hour (with active touchscreen and route navigation) and the consumption was 2%. Then it continued on my wrist (no notifications, with turn and light high and continuous hr) and there the thing got about 1% per hour (12% in total). I don’t particularly see it as a normal battery drain.
          .

          Try to reboot the watch after an activity with route navigation.
          One of the suspicious triggers of the issue is the route navigation, so that could explain you problem.

          Suunto T3D, Suunto Spartan Trainer, Suunto Spartan Ultra (retired), Suunto 9 Baro (retired), Suunto 9 Peak (retired), Suunto Vertical Titanium Solar, Suunto Race S.

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            gerasimos Bronze Member
            last edited by 28 Aug 2024, 14:11

            can someone confirm that the hard reset solves the battery problem?
            -and a full cycle charge

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            Suunto S9 gen1
            Suunto Ambit3 peak

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              Mff73 @gerasimos
              last edited by Mff73 28 Aug 2024, 14:13

              @gerasimos
              it seems not. You will just loose your data and customizations.

              https://forum.suunto.com/post/151611
              https://forum.suunto.com/post/151646

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              Suunto Vertical all black
              Wife : S9PP
              SA: Always the latest beta :)
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                Antoine Lancrenon Bronze Member @gerasimos
                last edited by Antoine Lancrenon 28 Aug 2024, 14:24

                @gerasimos did work at first for me… until I install the offline maps.

                so it is related to memory, backend process being Triggered either by complications? navigations? Gps?

                a soft reset should be enough, even if in my case i trigger very easily the drainage issue. still dont know what exactly.

                looking forward of the fix by Suunto. now that Enduro 3 is out, i want my suunto vertical to work at full potential to confirm my choice.

                thank you, we will get through this one soon !

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                  gerasimos Bronze Member @Antoine Lancrenon
                  last edited by 28 Aug 2024, 15:05

                  @Antoine-Lancrenon @Mff73 thanks !

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                  Suunto S9 gen1
                  Suunto Ambit3 peak

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                    Ars Vitae Bronze Member
                    last edited by 28 Aug 2024, 15:54

                    While waiting for Suunto to fix the issue, I use the watch only for workouts. In the meantime, I turn it off and put it away. In this way, I avoid frequent recharging, as the watch behaves normally after each startup for two days. Here is my temporary solution.

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                      Antoine Bronze Member
                      last edited by 29 Aug 2024, 12:31

                      Do we know if a hotfix will be released soon ? With more than 400 posts it seems to be a real problem for a 65h autonomy watch…
                      Thanks

                      Watch: Suunto vertical solar

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                        Mff73 @Antoine
                        last edited by 29 Aug 2024, 12:52

                        @Antoine
                        among those 400 posts there are some hints, and the latest info is “in a couple of weeks”.
                        just wait and enjoy activities, and charge our watches just a couple of times more

                        Suunto Spartan Ultra (since 2016) FW: 2.8.24 (retired)
                        Suunto Vertical all black
                        Wife : S9PP
                        SA: Always the latest beta :)
                        Android 13, Galaxy S205G

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                          Mff73 @Antoine
                          last edited by 29 Aug 2024, 12:57

                          @Antoine
                          and 65h is autonomy in activity, which seems not to be impacted (as far as i understand or experienced).
                          You may also try this so unofficial workaround after each activity (it doesn’t consume that much personnal time and may let us wait (if it works for everyone)).
                          https://forum.suunto.com/post/151611

                          Suunto Spartan Ultra (since 2016) FW: 2.8.24 (retired)
                          Suunto Vertical all black
                          Wife : S9PP
                          SA: Always the latest beta :)
                          Android 13, Galaxy S205G

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                            Antoine Bronze Member @isazi
                            last edited by 30 Aug 2024, 14:08

                            @isazi said in Battery drain:

                            My personal workaround while we wait for a fix is: if you use navigation just reboot your watch at the end, after syncing the activity with your phone.

                            This is my personal view, nothing from Suunto

                            I managed to send logs to Suunto and hope a fix for this will be included in the next firmware. I also believe it is not the GPS but the storage that is kept active, GPS would give an even larger battery consumption. No confirmation from Suunto yet. I try to keep the forum informed as much as I can 🙂

                            Same to turn-off Suunto Vertical using general parametrers and to turn-on again i guess ?

                            Watch: Suunto vertical solar

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                              Mff73 @Antoine
                              last edited by 30 Aug 2024, 14:09

                              @Antoine
                              yes

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                              Suunto Vertical all black
                              Wife : S9PP
                              SA: Always the latest beta :)
                              Android 13, Galaxy S205G

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                                diogao13 Bronze Member @diogao13
                                last edited by 30 Aug 2024, 14:18

                                @diogao13 said in Battery drain:

                                At the control panel we find the battery percentage. It would be great an update to include more info, like a widget or simple click on battery percentage icon to present:

                                • current %
                                • last time it was recharged
                                • % when last recharged was initiated
                                • % when last recharged was ended
                                • a prediction when next recharge will be required, based on drain for a selectable period (3 days, week, month).
                                • draining graph using recharging date x %.

                                This would help us to detect draining activities or functions.

                                Scubapro G3 includes some features to help users watching battery
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                                  Kramble @isazi
                                  last edited by Kramble 30 Aug 2024, 23:21

                                  @isazi said in Battery drain:

                                  @Kramble said in Battery drain:

                                  To me it seems there are two drain bugs.
                                  One with big drain maybe the one you are testing.
                                  And another smaller one in mere watch use without activities.

                                  You are also correct, and Suunto is aware of that.

                                  @isazi Maybe a lead for the small drain :

                                  Two days ago I got the old synchronization bug on my android beta Suunto app (your watch is no longer found and when you try to pair again then the app fails).
                                  To solve it I know I have to wipe out the data and cache of the app ( did it from android setting menu), then I have to login again and pair my vertical again.
                                  It works with a little surprise, no more small drain bug : in 48h with one 50 min trail activity the vertical just lost 4% ! (from 85% to 81%).
                                  I did nothing else since my last drain (no reset and no full battery cycle, no solar charge).
                                  So maybe the Bluetooth could be responsible of the small drain ?

                                  Hope it can help.

                                  Ambit 3 peak saphir
                                  Spartan Ultra (sold)
                                  S7 graphite copper
                                  S9 peak all black
                                  Vertical titanium green forest
                                  Wings

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                                    Todd Danielczyk Gold Members @Kramble
                                    last edited by Todd Danielczyk 31 Aug 2024, 12:34

                                    @Kramble I had something similar this morning.

                                    Touch screen unresponsive, would not sync to the Suunto app, battery dropped about 26% overnight and wouldn’t pair even after restarting the Vertical.
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                                    Had to clear the cache and reset the app. Now I have 11 exercise days synced for 2024, nothing pervious dating back to 2019🤔🤣

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                                      Antoine Bronze Member @isazi
                                      last edited by Antoine 9 Jan 2024, 15:51 1 Sept 2024, 15:48

                                      @isazi said in Battery drain:

                                      My personal workaround while we wait for a fix is: if you use navigation just reboot your watch at the end, after syncing the activity with your phone.

                                      This is my personal view, nothing from Suunto

                                      I managed to send logs to Suunto and hope a fix for this will be included in the next firmware. I also believe it is not the GPS but the storage that is kept active, GPS would give an even larger battery consumption. No confirmation from Suunto yet. I try to keep the forum informed as much as I can 🙂

                                      I used navigation yesterday and today battery drop from 46% to 41% in 9 hours. Only time is displayed today.
                                      I will try your workaround.
                                      I have juste sent logs to Suunto.

                                      Watch: Suunto vertical solar

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                                        Antoine Bronze Member @Mff73
                                        last edited by 1 Sept 2024, 17:20

                                        @Mff73 not sure that autonomy in activity is not impacted. By analyzing the FIT file during an activity of more than 6 hours i found an estimated autonomy of 40h which was more than 60h before update.
                                        To be confirmed…

                                        Watch: Suunto vertical solar

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                                          Fenr1r
                                          last edited by Fenr1r 9 Jan 2024, 19:22 1 Sept 2024, 19:21

                                          Department of Possible Drain Candidates:

                                          FWIW, 7 hours after a recorded, route-following activity, the Compass widget is still reporting a value. I seem to remember it quitting much earlier post-navigation on the previous firmware.

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