Conclusions about the Suunto Vertical
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@fluca said in Conclusions about the Suunto Vertical:
Brad_Olwin I agree 100% with you because what you say make sense for me. But it seems to me is not related to my post you are replying or am I missing something?
That’s normal, dude, it’s his style,
Welcome to Suunto community
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@Brad_Olwin said in Conclusions about the Suunto Vertical:
@Sascha-Domres I have tested this in six different regions so far in the US and will test in Europe next week. So, I think somewhat isolated but clearly some regions or some type of watch usage is an issue.
Or yours is the one that works hehe
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@fluca This was your statement about degradation in reliability and chasing Garmin by Suunto.
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@trailcafe No. here for work and a very short visit.
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@Ilya-Sul said in Conclusions about the Suunto Vertical:
I’ve shelved the Vertical for now, as I find it too unreliable. It also gives me the chance to let it drain completely for once.
This should not be happening. I did not have a single crash on your firmware version and that included a 34h race. Please send logs to Suunto immediately after a crash and PM me with Suunto app username and time/date logs were sent
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@André-Faria said in Conclusions about the Suunto Vertical:
@Brad_Olwin said in Conclusions about the Suunto Vertical:
@Sascha-Domres I have tested this in six different regions so far in the US and will test in Europe next week. So, I think somewhat isolated but clearly some regions or some type of watch usage is an issue.
Or yours is the one that works hehe
I have 2 Verticals. Neither have serious issues but one is older hardware and has some problems specifically related to the hardware. However, no crashing or map issues.
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@Brad_Olwin said in Conclusions about the Suunto Vertical:
one is older hardware
I’m sorry, just curious, what do you mean by “older hardware”?
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@Dan-Cantir Prior to release.
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@Brad_Olwin I mean, I owns a S9PP which was seriously buggy (and it is yet), I’ve owned a SV form 1 month and it was buggy for some (not for me) at release. I have been with suunto since 2014. Since then, at release, suunto whatches just used work. Now we have a dedicated tread for bugs.
We also have a (kind of) beta program to see if the software is good enough to be released in production. This is all new for suunto and similar to what garmin does.
Something has shifted. I am not saying is necessarily bad. I am not saying it is suunto fault.
To stay in business, you have to play that business’ rules. In this business Garmin has 30% share, suunto in not listed. Garmin make rules, suunto follows.
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@fluca to correct you:
I had a Suunto Spartan Copper back in 2015/1016 which resetted on me during a triathlon
The situation changes with more complexity. Like what car companies have gone through at the end of the last century. They dealt with it using HIL automated testing.
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@fluca said in Conclusions about the Suunto Vertical:
Brad_Olwin I mean, I owns a S9PP which was seriously buggy (and it is yet), I’ve owned a SV form 1 month and it was buggy for some (not for me) at release. I have been with suunto since 2014. Since then, at release, suunto whatches just used work. Now we have a dedicated tread for bugs.
We also have a (kind of) beta program to see if the software is good enough to be released in production. This is all new for suunto and similar to what garmin does.
Something has shifted. I am not saying is necessarily bad. I am not saying it is suunto fault.
To stay in business, you have to play that business’ rules. In this business Garmin has 30% share, suunto in not listed. Garmin make rules, suunto follows.
This should not be taken as an offense. It is what it is.Come on dude, it’s just a watch, take easy.
I’m very happy with vertical now, I don’t use s+ app, don’t use map, don’t use OHR. It can perfectly run without any issue for a 10k run.
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@zhang965 said in Conclusions about the Suunto Vertical:
@fluca said in Conclusions about the Suunto Vertical:
Brad_Olwin I mean, I owns a S9PP which was seriously buggy (and it is yet), I’ve owned a SV form 1 month and it was buggy for some (not for me) at release. I have been with suunto since 2014. Since then, at release, suunto whatches just used work. Now we have a dedicated tread for bugs.
We also have a (kind of) beta program to see if the software is good enough to be released in production. This is all new for suunto and similar to what garmin does.
Something has shifted. I am not saying is necessarily bad. I am not saying it is suunto fault.
To stay in business, you have to play that business’ rules. In this business Garmin has 30% share, suunto in not listed. Garmin make rules, suunto follows.
This should not be taken as an offense. It is what it is.Come on dude, it’s just a watch, take easy.
I’m very happy with vertical now, I don’t use s+ app, don’t use map, don’t use OHR. It can perfectly run without any issue for a 10k run.
Finally you got that ambit back!
Sorry couldn’t resist!
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@André-Faria said in Conclusions about the Suunto Vertical:
@zhang965 said in Conclusions about the Suunto Vertical:
@fluca said in Conclusions about the Suunto Vertical:
Brad_Olwin I mean, I owns a S9PP which was seriously buggy (and it is yet), I’ve owned a SV form 1 month and it was buggy for some (not for me) at release. I have been with suunto since 2014. Since then, at release, suunto whatches just used work. Now we have a dedicated tread for bugs.
We also have a (kind of) beta program to see if the software is good enough to be released in production. This is all new for suunto and similar to what garmin does.
Something has shifted. I am not saying is necessarily bad. I am not saying it is suunto fault.
To stay in business, you have to play that business’ rules. In this business Garmin has 30% share, suunto in not listed. Garmin make rules, suunto follows.
This should not be taken as an offense. It is what it is.Come on dude, it’s just a watch, take easy.
I’m very happy with vertical now, I don’t use s+ app, don’t use map, don’t use OHR. It can perfectly run without any issue for a 10k run.
Finally you got that ambit back!
Sorry couldn’t resist!
Enjoy your watch outdoors.No, vertical cannot be ambit, vertical has no recovery test.
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@zhang965 maybe it will get some recovery metric with the next update?
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@Egika said in Conclusions about the Suunto Vertical:
@zhang965 maybe it will get some recovery metric with the next update?
Yes, maybe it will not crash with the next update.
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@zhang965 has your Vertical crashed?
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@zhang965 said in Conclusions about the Suunto Vertical:
@Egika said in Conclusions about the Suunto Vertical:
@zhang965 has your Vertical crashed?
Once
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I still don’t get why some have so many crashes/bugs and some don’t.
Been intensivly using my Vertical since it was released (more than 120 hours, 1000km for 80 different activities), maps always on, apps (climb, weather, safe), structured workouts…and not a single crash.
I only had one soft reset the first week, and the no maps problem was solved by stopping/restarting the watch once.
Problably like every softwares there are particular use combinations that lead to bugs or crashes…Suunto’s devices at home :
Vertical titanium solar
Suunto Race S
S9pp titanium sand
Suunto Wing
S9B titanium Ambassador edition, A3P, X6
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