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What is the problem with Vo2max est on SV?

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    Egika Platinum Member @Frederick Rochette
    last edited by 26 Oct 2023, 10:52

    @Frederick-Rochette so, most likely as stated above: the FirstBeat algo did not like your workout enough to update VO2max… 😢

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      Frederick Rochette Bronze Member @Egika
      last edited by 26 Oct 2023, 11:07

      @Egika However, I had a different data almost every time I went out with my S9P, so I don’t understand what’s going on. In any case, no one here is able to find me a solution, just give me generalities and try to show me that I’m using my watch incorrectly.
      However, it seems obvious that there is a problem of estimation with this SV.
      Am I the only one to have identical data after each run or do you have different data, even with very little difference?

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        Egika Platinum Member @Frederick Rochette
        last edited by Egika 26 Oct 2023, 11:29

        @Frederick-Rochette said in What is the problem with Vo2max est on SV?:

        @Egika However, I had a different data almost every time I went out with my S9P, so I don’t understand what’s going on. In any case, no one here is able to find me a solution, just give me generalities and try to show me that I’m using my watch incorrectly.
        However, it seems obvious that there is a problem of estimation with this SV.
        Am I the only one to have identical data after each run or do you have different data, even with very little difference?

        While your basic concern is the “stuck” value, I think those generalities make sense to discuss anyway. Some very good remarks regarding VO2max in this thread 👍

        Regarding your identical values question: Yes, I have those as well sometimes. That’s what I meant in my comment above:
        “Regarding the “stuck” values:
        I found that the watch just keeps the old value, if data collected was not enough for a new calculation.”

        It is not your individual watch, but a systematic thing.
        For me, the values are not always stuck though. That’s why I suspect the FirstBeat algorithm to not accept every workout. But you are right. It’s just educated guessing here.

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          Jacobus @Frederick Rochette
          last edited by 26 Oct 2023, 12:02

          @Frederick-Rochette Ihave also a Vertical and with me the data changes a little bit every time i completed a training, it is not stuck as you can see.
          When i am training for a marathon the value wil rise bij maby two or tree points or soba642232-70ad-4770-a6bc-1ab0b529545c-1698320964787.jpg image url)

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            Frederick Rochette Bronze Member @Jacobus
            last edited by 26 Oct 2023, 13:34

            @Jacobus stuck for me…
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              isazi Moderator
              last edited by 26 Oct 2023, 13:37

              Mine is also changing.

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                Frederick Rochette Bronze Member @isazi
                last edited by 26 Oct 2023, 13:39

                @isazi and before with my s9P…
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                  isazi Moderator @Frederick Rochette
                  last edited by 26 Oct 2023, 13:56

                  @Frederick-Rochette you’ll get a new VO2max algorithm in few weeks for what I heard.

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                    Tieutieu Platinum Member
                    last edited by 26 Oct 2023, 14:21

                    Seems to work for me. vo2max can be improved, of course, but you don’t change it a lot easily or quickly. It’s a long term work.
                    Large drop for me in may (S9B=>SV switch), and then it progressivly came back to my « average values ».
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                      Frederick Rochette Bronze Member @Tieutieu
                      last edited by 26 Oct 2023, 14:24

                      @Tieutieu so it’s clear tha I have an Issue

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                        Tieutieu Platinum Member @Frederick Rochette
                        last edited by 26 Oct 2023, 14:28

                        @Frederick-Rochette have you tried to uninstall and reinstall the Suunto app ?

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                          Egika Platinum Member @Frederick Rochette
                          last edited by Egika 26 Oct 2023, 14:29

                          @Frederick-Rochette I have both. Stuck and changes.
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                            A Former User @isazi
                            last edited by 26 Oct 2023, 14:54

                            @isazi Even the 9 Peak Pro?

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                              stromdiddily Gold Members
                              last edited by 26 Oct 2023, 15:07

                              This is potentially not really an issue as we have been told the algo is changing yes?

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                                Stefan Kersting
                                last edited by 26 Oct 2023, 17:36

                                As you can see vo2 max varies and I’m not stucked. But as you can see too I have lower levels when there is much ascend. So this is something to think of.

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