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    • ChrisAC Offline
      ChrisA Platinum Member @Pilok
      last edited by ChrisA

      @Pilok for sleep tracking work correctly for me, I need to set my daily resting HR (in the watch settings) to a value about 9-10 beats higher than my average nightly resting HR.

      • Average 7 day sleep Suunto Race: 7:07 h
      • Average 7 day sleep Ouraring: 6:52 h

      15 min difference / weekly average is ok for me.

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      • sashaklepikovS Offline
        sashaklepikov Bronze Member @Pilok
        last edited by

        @Pilok said in Sleep tracking bug ?:

        I enabled the sleep tracking feature from 23:45 until 7:00am.

        This is unbelievable but I don’t see “Set the times for going to bed and waking up according to your usual sleep schedule.” like it is written in Suunto Race UserGuide So I have only toggle “Sleep tracking” without time. (Yes, then I have DnD time setting)

        @ChrisA last night everything was tracked fine even with set minimum HR as resting HR (52 I think)

        Garmin Forerunner 210 Black (ret.)
        Suunto Ambit3 Peak Black (gave it to my father)
        Suunto 9 Peak Granite Blue Titanium (gave it to a runner in our running chat)
        Suunto 9 Peak Pro Titanium Sand (waiting on the shelf)
        Suunto Race Titanium Charcoal (current)

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          isazi Moderator @sashaklepikov
          last edited by

          @sashaklepikov the Race does not need to set the usual sleeping time (only auto DND). In fact, it can detect sleep at any time (including naps). Old Suunto watches using the FirstBeat algorithms needed that.

          Watch: Suunto Vertical Ti

          Blog: isazi's home

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          • ChrisAC Offline
            ChrisA Platinum Member @sashaklepikov
            last edited by

            @sashaklepikov great! 👍😃 - maybe it works without setting the HRs like I do. I did it this way, because it worked for me with other Suunto watches.

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            • sashaklepikovS Offline
              sashaklepikov Bronze Member @isazi
              last edited by

              @isazi ah, okay, maybe user guide will be updated then (and this section was blindly copied from previous watches)

              Garmin Forerunner 210 Black (ret.)
              Suunto Ambit3 Peak Black (gave it to my father)
              Suunto 9 Peak Granite Blue Titanium (gave it to a runner in our running chat)
              Suunto 9 Peak Pro Titanium Sand (waiting on the shelf)
              Suunto Race Titanium Charcoal (current)

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                wakarimasen Silver Members @isazi
                last edited by

                @isazi Will this functionality be transferred to the 9PP with the forthcoming SW update?

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                Polar H10
                Polar OH1

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                • EgikaE Offline
                  Egika Platinum Member @wakarimasen
                  last edited by

                  @wakarimasen very likely

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                  Race S All Black - Titanium Courtney
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                    wakarimasen Silver Members
                    last edited by

                    Then I’m looking forward to it!

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                    • isaziI Online
                      isazi Moderator @wakarimasen
                      last edited by

                      @wakarimasen not sure, sleep algorithms will change (no more firstbeat) but naps are (from what was revealed by reviewers) only for Race.

                      Watch: Suunto Vertical Ti

                      Blog: isazi's home

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                      • sashaklepikovS Offline
                        sashaklepikov Bronze Member
                        last edited by

                        I’m probably already nitpicking but today sleep was tracked one hour less due to time change from summer time 🤔

                        What is more interesting - a nap was tracked very well yesterday. Even better than I expected

                        Garmin Forerunner 210 Black (ret.)
                        Suunto Ambit3 Peak Black (gave it to my father)
                        Suunto 9 Peak Granite Blue Titanium (gave it to a runner in our running chat)
                        Suunto 9 Peak Pro Titanium Sand (waiting on the shelf)
                        Suunto Race Titanium Charcoal (current)

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                        • helgonet12H Offline
                          helgonet12 @isazi
                          last edited by

                          @isazi why is it only for race and not for vertical? Is it because of hardware differences or by decision?

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                          • Mads Hintz-MadsenM Offline
                            Mads Hintz-Madsen @sashaklepikov
                            last edited by

                            @sashaklepikov Are you sure? My Race added an extra hour to my sleep time due to the time change. It seems correct for me.

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                            • sashaklepikovS Offline
                              sashaklepikov Bronze Member @Mads Hintz-Madsen
                              last edited by

                              @Mads-Hintz-Madsen it looks like a presentation issue at one place.

                              Here you can see that sum of awake, rem, light and deep is correct — 7h 26min

                              But in the title it is 6:30h (it is even not the difference between 07:31 and 01:06).

                              And the same data on the watch — correct breakdown and incorrect “title”

                              Screenshot_20231029-085815.png

                              Garmin Forerunner 210 Black (ret.)
                              Suunto Ambit3 Peak Black (gave it to my father)
                              Suunto 9 Peak Granite Blue Titanium (gave it to a runner in our running chat)
                              Suunto 9 Peak Pro Titanium Sand (waiting on the shelf)
                              Suunto Race Titanium Charcoal (current)

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                              • Mads Hintz-MadsenM Offline
                                Mads Hintz-Madsen @sashaklepikov
                                last edited by

                                @sashaklepikov That’s interesting. As you can see below then an additional 1hour has been added to the total sleep time in the title.

                                One difference between you and me is that I fell asleep before midnight and you after midnight. Maybe Suunto hasn’t taken properly into account (when handling the summer/winter time transition) that someone might fall asleep after midnight.

                                Screenshot_20231029-091032.png

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                                • isaziI Online
                                  isazi Moderator @helgonet12
                                  last edited by

                                  @helgonet12 various reasons, at least for now it will be like this (it’s software, so this may change in the future)

                                  Watch: Suunto Vertical Ti

                                  Blog: isazi's home

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                                  • Marius Jacobsen EggerudM Offline
                                    Marius Jacobsen Eggerud Silver Members
                                    last edited by

                                    Second night with the Race. First night sleep was tracked very well. This night sleep wasn’t track at all, same settings.

                                    Suunto Ambit 3
                                    Suunto Spartan Ultra
                                    Suunto Race Ti

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                                    • Marius Jacobsen EggerudM Offline
                                      Marius Jacobsen Eggerud Silver Members @Marius Jacobsen Eggerud
                                      last edited by

                                      @Marius-Jacobsen-Eggerud sorry, this was a mistake by me. Sleep was tracked very well even this night. I hadn’t given the watch time to register that I was out of bed. 😂

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                                      Suunto Race Ti

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                                        isazi Moderator @Marius Jacobsen Eggerud
                                        last edited by

                                        @Marius-Jacobsen-Eggerud the watch even adjusts the sleep a while after waking up (after being sure you’re up for good)

                                        Watch: Suunto Vertical Ti

                                        Blog: isazi's home

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                                        • Marius Jacobsen EggerudM Offline
                                          Marius Jacobsen Eggerud Silver Members @isazi
                                          last edited by

                                          @isazi Yes, realized that. Very impressed by the sleep tracking so far.

                                          Suunto Ambit 3
                                          Suunto Spartan Ultra
                                          Suunto Race Ti

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                                          • Pier Luigi CingolaniP Offline
                                            Pier Luigi Cingolani Bronze Member
                                            last edited by

                                            Is there any information in what classifies a “nap” in the watch? Definitely had few naps and only tracked a really long one.

                                            Additionally, am I the only one with quite inaccurate sleep tracking? I have to say, I am wearing my watch quite loosely, as it would otherwise bother me, but HR and HRV are really close to what my previous Garmin was tracking so I’d assume they are correct. However, tonight I went to bed as 11.30, SR said I was asleep by 1 (it was definitely before that, but that doesn’t seems a huge error tbh) but then tracked 3hrs as “awake”, when I clearly wasn’t.

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