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Disappointing Sleep tracking after new update

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    bankstreetwriter
    last edited by 28 Nov 2023, 07:14

    After upgrading to the new features 2 weeks ago, sleep tracking isn’t working. I tried the following:

    Increased Resting Heart Rate
    Soft Reset of Watch
    Hard Reset of Watch
    Inactivated Stand Up Reminder Alert
    Any thoughts as I love this watch but need it to track sleep as well!

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      thanasis Bronze Member @bankstreetwriter
      last edited by 28 Nov 2023, 07:17

      @bankstreetwriter
      although i am a very happy new owner of the Vertical, i can attest that indeed the sleep tracking (which i tried for fun becuase i really find those features unnecessary and sometimes even disturbing to my lifestyle) is quite random.

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        Egika Platinum Member @bankstreetwriter
        last edited by 28 Nov 2023, 07:49

        @bankstreetwriter and after soft and hard reset, you have enabled the sleep tracking with the appropriate time in the settings?

        Is the step counter working?

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          bankstreetwriter @Egika
          last edited by 28 Nov 2023, 07:57

          @Egika yes it is.

          E 1 Reply Last reply 28 Nov 2023, 09:36 Reply Quote 0
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            peegee @bankstreetwriter
            last edited by 28 Nov 2023, 08:04

            @bankstreetwriter did any of these changes/actions make any difference for the sleep tracking?

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            Currently alternating between Race titanium & Vertical titanium solar.
            Would love a Vertical with amoled display.

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              bankstreetwriter @peegee
              last edited by 28 Nov 2023, 08:15

              @peegee

              Unfortunately not. I have done the following:

              Increased Resting Heart Rate
              Soft Reset of Watch
              Hard Reset of Watch
              Inactivated Stand Up Reminder Alert

              Still it has not tracked any sleep since I did the software update 2 weeks ago. Everything else works just fine…

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                Egika Platinum Member @bankstreetwriter
                last edited by 28 Nov 2023, 09:36

                @bankstreetwriter and 24/7 HR is on?

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                  dombo Bronze Member
                  last edited by 28 Nov 2023, 09:52

                  Hi Guys, just to add my experience. I have Vertical and it works OK for me after update. I tried to sleep few night with Race because I like report about phases in the morning. But result of race was the same - full of awake gaps even I slept OK. I wear both watches the same tightness and I assume I sleep the same 🙂 So it might be related to sensor/device, not just a sleep/person.

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                    bankstreetwriter @Egika
                    last edited by 28 Nov 2023, 15:02

                    @Egika

                    No It is off. It never had to be on before - it was always off and sleep tracker worked before the software update. I turned it off to reserve battery. I will turn it on now and try…

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                      Dimitrios Kanellopoulos Community Manager
                      last edited by 28 Nov 2023, 16:00

                      Just fyi to all here. This topic is tracked to improve the current solution.

                      So my ask is only to keep the scope and add any valuable feedback if possible.

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                        stromdiddily Gold Members
                        last edited by 28 Nov 2023, 17:38

                        I had three days of less than stelar sleep reporting (sleep starting 3-4 hours after reality).

                        Tightened the strap last night and it went back to normal. Will try perhaps the velcro strap for rest time to maintain a tighter fit

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                          A Former User @Dimitrios Kanellopoulos
                          last edited by 28 Nov 2023, 18:24

                          @Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos said in Disappointing Sleep tracking after new update:

                          Just fyi to all here. This topic is tracked to improve the current solution.

                          if only fw were available for the S9PP users as well we could happily give our humble contribution and ideas

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                            SuperFlo75 Silver Members Bronze Member
                            last edited by 28 Nov 2023, 21:57

                            Hello guys, I use the new firmware for SV since the day of release, and my first impression about sleep tracking was ‚it‘s as good or worse like before‘… that means that the times of sleeping are just ok, but the level of recovery was as low as before the update. But after about 8 or nine nights of using the watch with the new firmware, the level of recovery/recreation changed and was really much better the last nights… but I didn‘t change my settings in this time. The only thing I changed is that I wear the strap one hole closer because I thought it was too loose, perhaps because it is cold now and the tissue changed a little bit? Can somebody tell me about the parameters which have influence on sleep quality and recreation? Is it only the HR (and the rest HR that I tell the watch), or is it also the new HRV parameter which seems to need a calibration for about 14 days or more (my HRV widget is still not complete, the normal range is still missing)? For now, I thought about that the calibration of the HRV could be responsible for increasing sleep quality?

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                              bankstreetwriter
                              last edited by 29 Nov 2023, 05:02

                              So I turned on 24 HR tracking and finally the sleep worked. I didn’t know that it’s a prerequisite. I don’t think it was on 24 hours before the software update.

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                                Tieutieu Platinum Member
                                last edited by 29 Nov 2023, 06:22

                                A few more nights, sleep tracking still perfect.
                                I didn’t changed my settings since I received my SV in may :

                                • hr tracking H24
                                • no spo2 measurement
                                • do not disturb activated from 11pm to 7 am
                                • sleep target 7hours
                                • sleep period set from 11pm to 7am
                                  Since update : hrv mesurement activated.

                                Everything works fine.
                                One night I woke up to have a (water) drink, it recorded the one minute awaken.

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                                  BrunoH Gold Members @Tieutieu
                                  last edited by 29 Nov 2023, 07:28

                                  @Tieutieu

                                  My SV keeps on measuring spO2 even though the setting is OFF 😭

                                  All my sleeps are tracked 1-2 hours short, usually from the beginning of the sleep, but sometimes from the end as well.

                                  This feature became useless, which is a shame since my sleeps used to be spot on before the update. Looking at the 12h graph it seems like my HR is going down slowly when I fall asleep.

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                                    Mff73
                                    last edited by 29 Nov 2023, 07:37

                                    my today sleep was tracked correctly in terms of awake time (i think) : i was long time awaken and watch gives me almost 3h awake duration.
                                    but i had an alarm at 7, and i snooze it once for ten min, and then i stop it at 7h10, and fall asleep for one hour more :), but watch didn’t recognize this one extra hour : out of bed time is 7h10 😞
                                    My settings are DND and sleep period from 21h30 to 8h30 (large range to be sure to track everything (maybe not the right choice ? ).

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                                      Iggge
                                      last edited by Iggge 29 Nov 2023, 07:52

                                      I got three hours of sleep according to my Vertical. Don’t know why, but the watch did stop recording my sleep in the middle of the night at 4. Again, my other watch shows 6 hours.

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                                        Egika Platinum Member @bankstreetwriter
                                        last edited by 29 Nov 2023, 07:59

                                        @bankstreetwriter said in Disappointing Sleep tracking after new update:

                                        So I turned on 24 HR tracking and finally the sleep worked. I didn’t know that it’s a prerequisite. I don’t think it was on 24 hours before the software update.

                                        Guessing here:
                                        sleep detection uses HR plus watch movement. Not exactly sure what is was löike before the update.

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                                          e6321 Bronze Member @Egika
                                          last edited by 29 Nov 2023, 12:39

                                          @Egika i believe the vertical only uses hr.

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