@aqua86 it should eventually, but not any time soon. It will take time

I don’t know how it works on an ocean, but on my race s the direction is auto detected. If the route has tbt alerts, those are applied either way the direction I walk/run/bike the route. If I have reached the destination, the route is still available. No need to go into menu’s the choose a direction, just start. On my 2 previous garmins, this worked different. I had to choose in advance which way to go (and on a round trip it wasn’t easy to see on the map which way to start) If you followed a route the other way around without setting it in the settings you had a course error warning on your screen, all the time. When you selected the route to be followed in opposite direction you would loose tbt alerts. And if you reached destination, the route disappeared from your screen. Way to many times when I wanted to follow a round trip, the stupid watch concluded I reached my destination before I even stared and the watch ended navigation. So you have to go into settings and select the route again. I understand your wish to follow a route in opposite direction, but don’t envy garmin users. Envy suunto users with a running sport watch.

@seaman-life sorry to hear. But our of ignorance from my part—isn’t this why real diving watches has either drilled or fixed lugs and utilise either NATO or bracelets? There is basically no force in the world that would rip the bracelet (or my rubber strap with deployment clasp) off my Seiko Tuna.

@pavel.samokha First of all, thank you very much I’m sure you know who to refer the issue to and I know it will be addressed

@gsaff I am sorry for you, but there is no exception, Garmin too has very faulty units…

@yassine-besbes If I remember correctly, the sensor indeed needs to be deleted from the watch and paired again. This came with the change in sensor management. Now I see that you have already tried to re-pair it. Have you deleted it before this? And then have you enabled the sensor in the exercise settings under “Sensor Data”?

@Wei-Lun did you find a solution for this? Mine is stuck in a boot loop for 12 hours now.

@André-Faria Nope. Individual creation remains the method.

@prakalejas a firmware update should come before summer as far as I know

@Egika I had a similar problem when updating maps. The map upload continued at the office, then I went home and it was postponed until tomorrow. Even though the watch was connected to Wi-Fi at home, the upload didn’t progress at all. So I deleted the Wi-Fi network the watch was connected to and re-paired it. It then continued the upload from where it left off. Just a suggestion.

@isazi Thanks for the update, I really do hope we get the features, as swimming is primarily my sport. And the watch is both diving and sport advertised. Also, the fact that Suunto recommended this knowing my use case does not seem to make sense at this point. I would really like to get involved to help the delays on the Ocean, as it is a solid product just lacks the support in comparison to the other outdoor watches.

Still not sorted out? Can’t even find an answer or explanation on how to turn dive mode off?

@Nandodiver said in In Backcountry skiing it sucks!!!: @Brad_Olwin 220 minus age that’s the official method largely used for more than 30 years More recently in 2023 some endurance athletes start using the “Nes formula” 220 minus age: 220 - 60 = 160 bpm Nes formula: 211 - (0.64 × 60) = 211 - 38.4 ≈ 173 bpm Most of those formulas are poor, it does not matter how long they have been used. Typically the subjects the formulas are based on are sedentary or do not exercise much. Second, max HR is highly genetically determined and variable. For me the formulas give numbers that would severely negatively impact my training. Max HR should be determined by training if possible. There have been many posts here and I see on Apple forums where individuals are exercising for 60 min or more in Z5.

@tsarit Hello, Have you been able to gain any new insights in the meantime?