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@Brad_Olwin yes but I’m unsure currently how to get it right. I have another issue in that I can’t record Stryd Air Power unless I use the Suunto Stryd app but I don’t seem to be able to use that app to execute planned workouts from TrainingPeaks. It’s all quote fussy in comparison to what I’m used to.

@Mirek_R Try charging it fully then doing a soft-reset (hold the upper button for 12 seconds) and see if it fixes the drain issue. The main trigger for the bug that drains the battery seems to be when you start an activity with navigation (with a route, not just breadcrumb). A soft reset fixes the issue until the next time you use a route. If the battery drain is still there after a soft reset, talk to customer services and you can prob. send the watch back for a replacement or repair.

@Mff73 said in Windsurfing parameters in knots: new Suunto+ apps are not developped by the community (yet ? ). I guees is not a problem to add 8 parameters for all people who have new wathces and they are in nautical sports: Nautical MAX SPEED (in knots) 2 sec max (in knots) 10 sec run (in knots) 100met run (in knots) 500met run (in knots) nautical mile (1852m) (in knots) average 5/10 ( best 10sec runs) (in knots) alpha jibe (@500) (in knots) AND WE HAVE IT ALL

@timecode …and some users report that no matter how many runs they’ve done they’ve never seen VO2max. I’ve had Vertical for 1,5 years and I don’t have it. (Well Cooper test S+ app gives me an estimation but still after all this time my Vertical keeps telling me to record one outdoor run in order to get insights about my fitness). The last sw update was supposed to make VO2max appear more easily, but no-one bothered to define the minimum requirements. I’ve tried with and without Suunto Smart belt. I’ve waited for a decent GPS fix before starting. I’ve tried running for 15 mins until exhaustion and I’ve tried to take it easier for an hour or so. Still nothing. This is the moment when people usually start asking about my zone definitions… And then other people tell me to forget about VO2max because it is useless. Sigh. My HR max is 185 (a few clicks higher than what I’ve seen in real life while taking it to the limit). My resting HR is 65 and the other limits in between are the watch defaults. Age 55, 187 cm tall and 125 kg. This is my only major disappointment with Vertical, considering how easy it used to be with S9B’s old algorithm.

I use it for short/small scrolls, map zoom and choosing activity. Since i have vibration on, it gets a bit over stimulating to feel a vibration when flicking through each menu with the crown scolling haha. I wished /If there was an option to disable scroll vibration I’d use the crown so much more.

@Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos cause we did it at the beach and i can See some places in the Maps in the App ️

@elbee indeed … I noticed that too . Still seems better than before .

@Ze-Stuart exactly

@lessthanmore interesting, So even the titanium version has the same ‘issue’! Definitely not ideal… I hope Suunto knows about this one.

this is such an interesting post to me as I am also an ex-garmin user (ancient FR 45), trying out the race s, and getting annoyed with a few things which are making me think to bite the bullet and get a FR 965, but this has given me pause!! A really big problem is an annoying function garmin recently added: forced audio tbt alerts. Either your connected phone or your headphones will give spoken tbt alerts and those cannot be turned off. Obviously a lot of users complained. Garmin is aware but couldn’t be bothered. a big pull for me with the garmin was that i could use spotify with it direct, leaving my phone behind. but that issue would make that useless, and to see that this has been around for 8+ months with no fix is wild. The charge cable on my suunto is better. But that is mainly because I don’t like the plug garmin uses. yeah this kind of ‘magsafe’ charger is much better. can’t believe garmin are still using plugs in 2025, for $500+ watches no less! Garmin has 2 buttons on the rightside, the top one for start and stop activities, the bottom for lap. Suunto also uses the bottom one for laps, but sometimes the digital crown is in the way. Stopping an activity on a suunto is a bit weird. It doesn’t work on the maps/breadcrumb screen. Also, you have to press the top button, then the bottom one, and lastly the digital crown to really end and save the activity. On a garmin, if you just want to end an activity it’s only 2 buttons clicks. strong agree. the maps thing is particularly annoying (and unnecessary). i feel like a running watch should allow you to always blindly stop and resume activities with one or two button presses. also the touch screen seems to not work in some contexts (eg stopping and ending a run). one thing i can’t seem to get nice on my suunto is the smartwatch notifications. on garmin i could turn the notifications on for ‘during activity’ (useful), but for suunto it’s either on or off for everywhere. so after a run i need to turn on DND or turn the watch off to avoid having it beeping and vibrating, when i have my phone covering that anyway. what was pulling me to the 965 was the on-watch map routing, and the ability to connect spotify and payments, but mostly it was because the basics of starting/stopping activities and how the buttons worked seemed logical and intuitive to me, whereas with suunto i feel like i’m finding all these weird quirks where things don’t work how i would expect them. BUT the 965 seems huge, expensive and ugly to me, whereas the suunto S is extremely cute and feels expensive, despite being about 40% cheaper. plus the garmin app has never made any sense to me. i think my worry is that (like Garmin), suunto don’t seem to have a great feedback loop of user feature requests/bug reports. you can find the same/similar issues with maps and notifications logged in the forums months or even years back. nothing is perfect, but i am going to keep trying with my race s to see if i can live with this stuff.

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Thank you all! A bunch of restarts (phone, app, permissions…) seems to work for a while. When it’s not working anymore, restart of everything again. Not ideal, should be investigated more. Ciao!

I wanted to add one more example of misleading navigation guidance. In this case not only the blue arrows are rendered behind the track but also the watch fails to recognize that I moved forward and still renders the blue arrow behind of where I am. [image: 1743869731045-pxl_20250405_003650936.jpg] This was at a crossroads of trails where I tried to figure out where to go next, and the guidance provided by the watch was misleading. In reality I was supposed to continue on that dark blue with no red part of the track. Also note the poor accuracy of following the trail. As far as I can tell the map was accurate but the tracking was not. This was using dual-band GNSS. Also, what it actually has recorded looks different from what was displayed on the watch: [image: 1743870249456-screenshot-2025-04-05-at-9.22.13-am.png] Perhaps the watch should not simplify the track at a high zoom level to help with navigation. There are situations when this might be confusing.

@2b2bff Yes, I noticed this today as well, it works as expected now.

This is my second day wearing a newly purchased Race S. Same issue, unfortunately. As I sit here and type, the heart rate reading is 88. There is no way this can be real, as my usual range is somewhere between 55 to 68. This afternoon, I also tested exercise, and the HR monitor reading was all over the place; before I warmed up, it showed 120+, while my Apple watch read 60-70, and in the middle of exercise, it stopped getting my HR. The green light was blinking; however, it was in exercise mode. I tried removing and re-attaching, resetting, and the trick of toggling on/off 24/7 monitoring; I really wanted to love this watch, but now I am in doubt. I hope this is a bug that can be fixed by update. I will give it another week and decide if this is a return as well.

@TuanNT said in Suunto Race S optical heart rate sensor accuracy: This morning, while seating at the office, My heart rate should be in normal range 45-50 but it is bump up to 90 - 100 While reading this I decided to check what my Race S is currently showing as I am taking a coffee break at work. The watch is showing 120-140 while I am sitting still and my pulse is clearly about 50 - I have manually counted it. This is ridiculous!

Coros Apex 2 has maps on an MIP display that has the exact same size as Suunto 9 Peak/Pro. I’ve used it and it works really well. There is no point at all in saying that the display is too small or the MIP resolution is not high enough for it. If it was possible to upload routes to a Coros watch when being offline, I would possibly switch to an Apex 2 now. This feature is something I really appreciate in Suunto watches.

@Bastienhere On premium version (130 dollA) not the standard one, and maybe it’s coated

@Oscar-Lundberg The Race S has a better HR Sensor than the Race and 9PP. They doubled the number of LEDs and so it is more durable to wrist movement, low temperature and loose wear. For running and cycling I use the heart rate belt cause especially at cycling wrist hr is not very accurate at all. When running, the sensor can be almost as good as Applewatch. https://www.dcrainmaker.com/2024/06/suunto-race-s-in-depth-review-smaller-cheaper.html?utm_source=chatgpt.com#accuracy GPS is better too, at least compared to the 9PP. But I am quite confident with the 9PP for my main activies like hiking, mtb-ride, (xc)-sking, running. Openwater Swimming was a complete failure for me when wearing on the wrist even when raising it out of the water every now and then but seems to work with the Race S. https://www.dcrainmaker.com/2024/06/suunto-race-s-in-depth-review-smaller-cheaper.html?utm_source=chatgpt.com#mapping-navigation