@Simon-0 Suuntoapp is registering activities without knowing your HR zones (it is using default ones). Maybe an hint to explain metrics differences like calories?

@gerstlauer I agree that - long time - insights, like resources or sleep time (e.g. seeing that going to bed earlier or sleeping regularly results in long time higher HRV or lower resting HR) can be helpful, but I dislike short term scores like Garmin gives you for everything. They are way too much. Give me the data I choose and let me interpret it myself.

@Oscar-Lundberg The Race S has a better HR Sensor than the Race and 9PP. They doubled the number of LEDs and so it is more durable to wrist movement, low temperature and loose wear. For running and cycling I use the heart rate belt cause especially at cycling wrist hr is not very accurate at all. When running, the sensor can be almost as good as Applewatch. https://www.dcrainmaker.com/2024/06/suunto-race-s-in-depth-review-smaller-cheaper.html?utm_source=chatgpt.com#accuracy GPS is better too, at least compared to the 9PP. But I am quite confident with the 9PP for my main activies like hiking, mtb-ride, (xc)-sking, running. Openwater Swimming was a complete failure for me when wearing on the wrist even when raising it out of the water every now and then but seems to work with the Race S. https://www.dcrainmaker.com/2024/06/suunto-race-s-in-depth-review-smaller-cheaper.html?utm_source=chatgpt.com#mapping-navigation

@Bastienhere On premium version (130 dollA) not the standard one, and maybe it’s coated

@far-blue something similar happened to me when starting a workout a few days ago. Started the watch, then it soft reset by itself, then showed 4 messages incoming, which I confirmed and then it soft resets itself another time. Ended with device reseting itself to safe state. https://forum.suunto.com/post/159812 Had no problems ever since though.

@Bernard-P I thought it might be hardware! Sorry.

@Fred-Eric I don’t know the answer to your question but turn by turn directions also work with routes created in Kamoot.

The bug with the HR graph is still present in the latest firmware. Interestingly enough, the first first time when I used the watch after the update, it worked correctly, but then the bug resumed. Furthermore, there is another bug that I’ve noticed. When a next turn notification pops up when I am right at the previous turn, if I dismiss that notification manually, it pops up again right away. Yesterday, I ended up dismissing the same turn notification 4 times in a row until I moved enough for it to stop popping up. That is a minor issue, but an issue nevertheless. Furthermore, there is one more annoying issue: [image: 1735508518288-pxl_20241228_232518248.jpg] If go on the same path more then once, then the light blue direction arrows end up being rendered behind the red breadcrumbs track, which makes it very difficult to see. In this particular case the path that I needed to take was obvious, but I experienced other cases when I come from one path on the way out and need to take another path on the way back. In the latter case it becomes difficult to distinguish between the dark blue route and the light blue direction array when they both are rendered behind the red breadcrumbs track. It would be better to change the Z-order so that the light blue arrows are always on top of everything. In other words the order should be the following: the dark blue route on the back, the red track is above the route, and the the light blue arrows are on top of everything. Finally there is one more issue, that is perhaps not a bug, but something that I initially thought was a bug. I was wearing a long sleeve jacket that covered the watch. On 3 different occasions when I looked at the map, it appeared off-center and not oriented correctly, which made me wonder what was going on. Finally I realized that perhaps the wet sleeve was touching the watch and made it pan the map. What would be the best way to avoid it. Should I change the touch mode so that it only wakes up the display and not the watch? In that case, how can I pan the map? Should I press some button first?

@whiplash you can customise the fields on the watch face. After watch face it’s active go into control panel - customise then complications. You can also swap watch faces from the same menu.

My Vertical was 3,5-4% a day, after this “famous uptate” around 5%. Now after last update seems back to 3,5-4%.

@Jeffrey-Tillack Suunto has a wonderful Courtney Dawaulter edition of the Race S!

@sky-runner said in Turn notifications are confusing, borderline misleading: That information should be displayed at the bottom of the map instead. as of the current aoftware release, the information is displayed at the bottom tooth for TBT mode in every sceeen - at least when I was using it. Notification at the turn is still for the next turn obviously. So half the issue you have is gone, but one part still remains.

@lessthanmore May have been a mistake, don’t worry about it, easy to hit the wrong caret.

@GiPFELKiND are your last comments of any help to anyone ?

@Stephen-Kenny I’ve begun week four with a RaceS plus Polar H10 (old pod, new strap). No experience of cycling but the Run activities line up quite nicely between watch and app. I don’t carry a phone/camera with me so had to memorize the numbers today: 1 hour 8 minutes run, Watch 53-something minutes Aerobic, 4m53s Anaerobic; SA 51m40s Aerobic, 5m13s Anaerobic. And the SA graph of the ZS Anaerobic peaks corresponds with when I saw the crossover on the watch. Obviously people have different hardware when it comes to HR belts/straps but I wonder if we also differ in the DDFA algo ‘affinity’ to our personal HRV system. Perhaps some people fall way outside of the model norm?

@Brad_Olwin I think you’re right. I also doubt many people are that bothered by it, it’s quite a niche thing. It’s just really useful for hitting specific paces on a track, for example, ave lap pace is super useful for this sort of thing.