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      wakarimasen Silver Members @t-Dox
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      @t-Dox said in Software update 2.39.20 (2024 Q4):

      @wakarimasen said in Software update 2.39.20 (2024 Q4):

      @Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos No worries - these things happen. Mistakes in surgery (for example) and issues with new firmware affecting the HRM on a watch that is used for non-professional sports activities, are quite clearly different things šŸ™‚

      I don’t quite understand the connection with surgical errors… but as a software developer, I can only agree that errors in our industry can happen and that it’s not always the developers’ fault. Often what’s missing is testing and review work that should be done after development but that, either to cut costs or to stay on schedule, isn’t done.

      Some mistakes are more important than others 😜

      Suunto Race Titanium
      Suunto Ambit3 Peak
      Polar H10
      Polar OH1

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        BrunoH Gold Members @wakarimasen
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        More information regarding Vertical’s broken control panel. I used to be able to reproduce it with soft reset or by powering off, but I just found out that it had broken again ā€œall by itselfā€ without either of these boot actions. So apparently the symptom can surface even after being ok for a couple of days. I wish I knew what triggered it this time. Annoying, but not as serious as OHR problems.

        Compasses: M-311, A-10, SK-7
        Diving: Finnlight Navy 90, Vyper
        Sports: Metron, S7, S9B and Vertical

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          sebchastang Silver Members @BrunoH
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          @BrunoH I have also observed that sometimes even after self-repair the control panel fails again to display correctly.
          I still don’t know what causes this broken display.

          I agree with you @BrunoH, this is not as critical as the OHR issue, but I would still appreciate a fix.

          I decided to switch access to control panel from bottom or up button to middle button (pinned widget). No display issue so far.

          Maybe rendering a widget via bottom or upper buttons differs from rendering a widget via the middle button (pinned widget).
          Buttons shortcuts can be configured to access a functionality (flashlight, alarm clock, do not disturb, …) or a widget. Middle button can be configured to access a pinned widget only (not a functionality).

          Maybe I am wrong. I don’t know. But I share my experience if it can help Suunto to identify the cause of the issue.

          Suunto Vertical
          Suunto Traverse

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            BrunoH Gold Members @sebchastang
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            @sebchastang thanks for the tip, this workaround works!

            Maybe I am imagining things but it is like there’s a delay before the carousel appears.

            Compasses: M-311, A-10, SK-7
            Diving: Finnlight Navy 90, Vyper
            Sports: Metron, S7, S9B and Vertical

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              pilleus
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              8 days ago I updated my S9PP and SV. S9PP I use for sleep tracking and as daily watch. Until today in the morning without the problems caused by the update.

              In the morning I stood up at 04:54 h and went back to bed at 04:57 h. The heart rate in Suunto app shows a short peak and at the moment it goes down the measuring stopped. No heart rate, no sleep tracking for the sleep until 07:45 h.

              I reinstalled the last working firmware stored in the watch to be sure things will work as expected. šŸ”™

              https://www.instagram.com/moves.are.life/
              Suunto Vertical Black Lime
              Suunto 9 Peak Pro Black
              Suunto Spartan Ultra Stealth Titanium

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                sebchastang Silver Members @BrunoH
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                @BrunoH This is not your imagination šŸ™‚
                I also noticed a ā€œ2-stepā€ loading of the control panel widget. Top of the widget is loaded first (battery %, date), then the bottom part (menu) is loaded after a short delay.
                I have also noticed this delay while loading the logbook display that I used to set as pinned widget. The weekday vertical bars were loaded, then came the filling of these bars (according to your training) after a short delay.

                Suunto Vertical
                Suunto Traverse

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                  t-Dox @wakarimasen
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                  @wakarimasen said in Software update 2.39.20 (2024 Q4):

                  @t-Dox said in Software update 2.39.20 (2024 Q4):

                  @wakarimasen said in Software update 2.39.20 (2024 Q4):

                  @Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos No worries - these things happen. Mistakes in surgery (for example) and issues with new firmware affecting the HRM on a watch that is used for non-professional sports activities, are quite clearly different things šŸ™‚

                  I don’t quite understand the connection with surgical errors… but as a software developer, I can only agree that errors in our industry can happen and that it’s not always the developers’ fault. Often what’s missing is testing and review work that should be done after development but that, either to cut costs or to stay on schedule, isn’t done.

                  Some mistakes are more important than others 😜

                  that for sure, but in surgery the same procedures have been practiced for years, it is a much more repetitive job, there are always more people (and eyes) involved in the same operation (anesthetist, surgeon, nurses…) and it is much more difficult to make a mistake. For this reason it seems to me a bit of a risky comparison. In software there is a constant evolution, new libraries and frameworks every year and usually the developer works alone, so it is much easier to make mistakes

                  Andrea
                  9pp

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                    RoSko
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                    Hi there. Since there doesn’t seem to be a timetable of when the official return to the last Software Version will take place, is there a guide how to manually ā€œdowngradeā€ to 2.37.48?

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                      wakarimasen Silver Members @t-Dox
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                      @t-Dox said in Software update 2.39.20 (2024 Q4):

                      @wakarimasen said in Software update 2.39.20 (2024 Q4):

                      @t-Dox said in Software update 2.39.20 (2024 Q4):

                      @wakarimasen said in Software update 2.39.20 (2024 Q4):

                      @Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos No worries - these things happen. Mistakes in surgery (for example) and issues with new firmware affecting the HRM on a watch that is used for non-professional sports activities, are quite clearly different things šŸ™‚

                      I don’t quite understand the connection with surgical errors… but as a software developer, I can only agree that errors in our industry can happen and that it’s not always the developers’ fault. Often what’s missing is testing and review work that should be done after development but that, either to cut costs or to stay on schedule, isn’t done.

                      Some mistakes are more important than others 😜

                      that for sure, but in surgery the same procedures have been practiced for years, it is a much more repetitive job, there are always more people (and eyes) involved in the same operation (anesthetist, surgeon, nurses…) and it is much more difficult to make a mistake. For this reason it seems to me a bit of a risky comparison. In software there is a constant evolution, new libraries and frameworks every year and usually the developer works alone, so it is much easier to make mistakes

                      For sure - pick whichever analogy which suits you, that essentially sends the message that:

                      • worse things happen at sea
                      • there is no sense crying over spilt milk

                      Happy Christmas everyone šŸ™‚

                      Suunto Race Titanium
                      Suunto Ambit3 Peak
                      Polar H10
                      Polar OH1

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                        Triumph114 @RoSko
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                        @RoSko Yes, I found this :
                        https://forum.suunto.com/post/159082

                        T114

                        9Peak Pro, 9 Peak, Spartan Ultra , Ambit 3 Vertical, Ambit 2, X10, Yachtsman
                        Diving: Vyper Novo with pressure sensor, Vyper Air, Companion

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                          АлексанГр Даниленко
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                          BTW, apart from the bug with OHR, the S9PP has other bug or weird behaviour, which comes from old firmwares.

                          One of them - why does the watch turning of the screen even during the charging?
                          IMG_2453.jpeg

                          Also graphical bug with ā€œResourcesā€.
                          And resources still doesn’t update automatically on many watchfaces. Some watchfaces are bugged. For example the ā€œRaceā€ one shows empty calories scale (not always, but most of the time). Same watch face cannot fit the word ā€œResourcesā€, instead writting something like ā€œResourā€¦ā€. Other watchfaces are also problematic. You cannot see HR on them (if you chose it from complications), once watch are locked.

                          And my favourite - bug in swimming, I wrote too many times about:
                          https://forum.suunto.com/topic/9533/swimming-problems-s9pp?_=1735054260795

                          Suunto Race S

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                            SuuntoZec @pavel.samokha
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                            @pavel-samokha @Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos @Egika

                            Just to make sure:
                            The problems with the new release does not only happen the S9PP.

                            Race S (at least mine) are also impacted:

                            1. OHR stops working every few hours and needs a soft reset to restart.
                            2. Sleep tracking stopped working on the first night
                            3. And the settings of my Bluetooth devices (HRM + PWR) were changed

                            Bad/Inconsistent data being worse than no data, I downgraded to the previous software release until a fix is available. Everything has been working like a charm since then.

                            Looking forward the fix.

                            PS: Like others, I love Suunto for its design, deliberate simplicity, and reliability. Don’t change that.

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                              MiniForklift Platinum Member
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                              Charging the watch after this update is a real problem. When I plug the watch in nothing happens, this morning I had to do 4 or 5 soft resets and a couple of power on/off and it finally started charging. Usually nothing happens when you connect the charging cable, occasionally it shows the charging screen on the watch but the battery percentage doesn’t increase

                              It’s a real PITA is I’m honest, don’t know if this is a noted issue or just me ā“

                              SV Titanium Solar Forest

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                                peegee @Dimitrios Kanellopoulos
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                                @Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos
                                I hear a lot of talk about the problems with the PP, but not so much about the race.
                                I’m having similar issues with my Race, my main issue is irregular sleep tracking, and in the last two nights I have no sleep tracking whatsoever!
                                I really don’t know what to do about it, it is really frustrating. I send the logs but would like a suggestion how to overcome the problem.

                                Been with a Suunto on my wrist since Ambit2
                                Currently alternating between Race titanium & Vertical titanium solar.
                                Would love a Vertical with amoled display.

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                                  Jan Van de Velde Bronze Member @peegee
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                                  @peegee I have a similar issue on my Race S. Any suggestions are welcome!

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                                    VoiGAS Silver Members @Jan Van de Velde
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                                    @Jan-Van-de-Velde Strange, no issues with my Race S. Daily Heartrate, Sleep Tracking and battery lifetime like before


                                    Race S
                                    Ambit3 Vertical

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                                      RoSko @Triumph114
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                                      @Triumph114 Thanks! That worked just fine!

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                                      • RudelarisSRR Offline
                                        RudelarisSR @Jan Van de Velde
                                        last edited by

                                        @Jan-Van-de-Velde said in Software update 2.39.20 (2024 Q4):

                                        @peegee I have a similar issue on my Race S. Any suggestions are welcome!

                                        Same here, my Race S does not register sleep tracking neither HR since firmware update. Hotfix will include update for Race S?

                                        Regards

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                                        • Kurt68K Offline
                                          Kurt68 @peegee
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                                          @peegee With the Race, sleep tracking also stopped from one day to the next. Deactivating and reactivating sleep tracking solved the problem for me.

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                                            Sergey Balbir @Dimitrios Kanellopoulos
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                                            @Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos

                                            Hi and happy holidays,
                                            Do we have any ETA for the rollback?
                                            I got stuck without the old build on my watch. Can’t rollback manually šŸ˜ž

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