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    Software update 2.39.20 (2024 Q4)

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    • K Offline
      Knigge Bronze Member @Brad_Olwin
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      @Brad_Olwin As I wrote yesterday at noon: “The argument ‘The old hardware is simply too weak for this calculation’ is one that I can understand and accept.” I’m aware that four years is a very long time in the world of electronics. I also had no intention of disturbing or dragging out this thread in any way. I was/am simply a bit frustrated, that’s all. It’s just my personal feeling. If I used any terms incorrectly, I’d like to apologize for that.

      When I said, “The S9P is no longer supported,” I meant that there will be no more updates for this watch. I thought I had specifically referred to the watch and not the app. And I never said that “it’s not true” that the hardware can’t support ZoneSense (or other features). At the beginning, it was always about “the operating system of the watch” and the fact that the old operating system will simply no longer be developed.

      In my understanding, there is a difference between a feature not working because it isn’t implemented in the software (the operating system) and a feature not working because the hardware can’t handle it. Saying “The feature doesn’t work because it hasn’t been implemented in the software” also means “We could make the feature usable in the software.” But as I said, if the hardware doesn’t allow it, I fully agree with you that it is what it is.

      Actually, I wanted to send you, Brad_Olwin, a personal message with this content to avoid holding up this thread any further, but I couldn’t find that option. And I couldn’t just leave your words as they were. So, please excuse this wall of text, which has no relevance to the current update. I won’t comment any further. I meant no offense to anyone.

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        The_77 Silver Members
        last edited by The_77

        Found idly something useful out today - when using button lock in activity, you can hold the middle button on the map page and it cycles to the previous page like with every other one, where the default behaviour with button lock off is to adjust zoom levels.

        Given that I very rarely actually adjust zoom levels I guess I’ll have button lock on by default now to save me skipping forward all the way to get to the page before the map one.

        I’m sure other people have already noticed, given this was the case on the previous FW apparently.

        Suunto Spartan Trainer Wrist HR / 9PP Refurb

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          SuperFlo75 Silver Members Bronze Member
          last edited by SuperFlo75

          I have the impression that the battery drain problem is back… a few days ago I looked at the map during an activity, since then I lose 5-6% per day… I send logs (16.57) and then do a soft reset.

          Suunto Vertical Titanium Forest/Dark Ruby/UTMB/Courtney_Edition
          Suunto Wing
          Suunto 9 Peak Pro Titanium (owns my wife now)
          Suunto Spartan Ultra
          SA iOS 2.43.0 (18473)
          Instagram @superflo75

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          • B Offline
            bbartlomiej
            last edited by

            Another data point.
            New Suunto Vertical, purchased on 16.01.2025, latest software version v2.39.20 claiming to have fixed the HR issues in release notes. It worked ok for past week and today the HR sensor stopped working, didn’t record my sleep. After rebooting the watch it went back to normal.

            How is your experience with latest software version? Is HR really fixed?

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              jsuarez Bronze Member @bbartlomiej
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              @bbartlomiej Did it stop after having charged the battery? In my case HR and sleep tracking stopped after first charge with the new FW.

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                SergioB @bbartlomiej
                last edited by

                @bbartlomiej FW 2.39.20 (latest one for Vertical) introduced the HR and sleep tracking bugs that you see discussed in many recent threads. Currently, the problem is “solved” only for 9PP (the most affected by this problem) with a downgrade to a previous FW. A fix for all watches should hopefully be released this month according to statements reported in this forum.

                Suunto Race Stainless Steel (always updated to latest FW) and Suunto App on Android 13.

                Previously owned/tested: Suunto Vertical Stainless Steel, Suunto 9, Suunto 3.

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                • kriskusK Offline
                  kriskus Bronze Member
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                  Does the red dot in SuuntoApp next to the firmware version mean anything or is it there just like that? When I click, it says that the firmware is anyway up to date.
                  Screenshot_20250128_105951_com.stt.android.suunto_edit_18423417384687.jpg

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                  • SamuelPS Offline
                    SamuelP Bronze Member @kriskus
                    last edited by

                    @kriskus interesting. I have never seen that dot before. It has appeared for me also. 🤔

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                    • SuperFlo75S Offline
                      SuperFlo75 Silver Members Bronze Member
                      last edited by

                      I would like to report a new crazy behavior of my SV which I see since the last update. As for me the battery drain issue is not solved yet, I had to charge my SV today after only 17days… when I put the watch to the charger, the charging screen appeared on the watch display, but there was no change of the charging level for about 5 minutes… normally I could see the first increase of the charging level after max. 1 minutes! After a soft reset, everything was normal, and the watch is charging as expected. I recognized this behavior some weeks before, I think I charged 2 times since the last software update… and as it seems to happen every time I charge, I now report it here. I never recognized that this behavior was reported here…

                      Suunto Vertical Titanium Forest/Dark Ruby/UTMB/Courtney_Edition
                      Suunto Wing
                      Suunto 9 Peak Pro Titanium (owns my wife now)
                      Suunto Spartan Ultra
                      SA iOS 2.43.0 (18473)
                      Instagram @superflo75

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                      • Zdeněk HruškaZ Offline
                        Zdeněk Hruška Bronze Member @SuperFlo75
                        last edited by

                        @SuperFlo75 I can confirm I have had this behaviour as well. But not every time. It seems to me it happened when I was charging with lower remaining battery (under 30%) but I am not sure about that.

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                          cosme.costa @Zdeněk Hruška
                          last edited by

                          @Zdeněk-Hruška @SuperFlo75 I’ve seen this behaviour with previous firmwares too, mainly if I was downloading maps.
                          I charged mine 2 days ago without issues, battery level was 17%.

                          In my case battery drain has been solved, 29days with 4/5 hours of GPS per week, 1 per week without GPS and around 6/7 hours of maps in total. Backlight, 24/7, sleep and notifications off. No sun either, so no solar charge.

                          Since I have the watch this has been the best battery consumption that I ever have had.

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                          • SuperFlo75S Offline
                            SuperFlo75 Silver Members Bronze Member @Zdeněk Hruška
                            last edited by

                            @Zdeněk-Hruška I recognized this behavior the last 3 times I wanted to charge… not before. I always charge from a level of about 5-10%… so I can’t give a statement if the behavior is different when charging from a higher level

                            Suunto Vertical Titanium Forest/Dark Ruby/UTMB/Courtney_Edition
                            Suunto Wing
                            Suunto 9 Peak Pro Titanium (owns my wife now)
                            Suunto Spartan Ultra
                            SA iOS 2.43.0 (18473)
                            Instagram @superflo75

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                              Sportsfreund Bronze Member @SuperFlo75
                              last edited by

                              @SuperFlo75 I always charge below 30%, otherwise the alarm clock no longer works.

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                              • jjorgemouraJ Offline
                                jjorgemoura
                                last edited by jjorgemoura

                                Having some issues with my SV recently. No apparent reason. Last update was in December (2.39.20).

                                Last Friday, did a Treadmill session. Watch totally failed to track that. Usually there are some differences between the watch and the treadmill (maybe 1Km difference in a 10Km run).
                                However, this time, watch was tracking 30min/Km pace, when I was running around 6:30m/Km. Mega fail.

                                The next day, Saturday, for first time, HR stoped working. It seems the issue is not only affecting the S9PP.
                                This required a soft reset to have HR working again.

                                Two days after, yesterday, another treadmill run and another 30min/Km session. I stoped the session and started a new one, hoping that might solve it but nothing, continue tracking my session at around 30min/Km.
                                At the end, I manually adjusted the distance. However, that doesn’t have an impact on TSS.
                                Thus, one of those sessions is now a 6.05Km distance and 40 min long, with 477Kcal, 7585 steps and 2 TSSr!!!

                                Can’t see why this has started happening now, again, no recent watch updates.
                                Maybe next time I would take my old S9B as a backup and comparison!

                                Suunto 9 Baro Titanium
                                Suunto Vertical Titanium Solar Forest

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                                • MarynM Offline
                                  Maryn Silver Members
                                  last edited by Maryn

                                  Suunto Race SW 2.39.20

                                  Black screen in preset training mode(training downloaded from TP)

                                  From the suunto app, ZoneSense was additionally enabled. During the run, the screen remained black. Training step messages appeared normally while the training screen itself remained black.

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                                  Anyone had a similar experience?
                                  It was the first time something like this happened to me. I tried to start this training several times and each time the screen went black.

                                  Suunto Vertical, Suunto Race, Edge 530, Vantage V, Suunto Wings, Polar H10&Verity Sense

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                                  • GiPFELKiNDG Offline
                                    GiPFELKiND Silver Members @Maryn
                                    last edited by

                                    @Maryn holy shit 😱

                                    If it doesn't challenge you, it doesn't change you. #lifewithasthma #runwithasthma #nevergiveup #pushinglimits #adventurestartshere Suunto D9, 9 Baro, 9 Peak, Vertical Ti, Race , Race s Courtney, SA (Beta) Android🏃🏼🧗⛷️🚵

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                                    • Brad_OlwinB Offline
                                      Brad_Olwin Moderator @Maryn
                                      last edited by

                                      @Maryn I use TP as well and have never seen this, perhaps the exercise was not transferred from TP appropriately. I would restart the app on the phone and if that doesn’t fix soft reboot the watch. I use ZS with most of my runs.

                                      Vector/T6c/Ambit 3 Peak/S5 Copper/S3/S7 Ti/S9 baro Ti/S9P Ti/S9PP Ti/Vertical Ti/Race Ti/RaceS/Ocean/Wing

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                                      • SportsfreundS Offline
                                        Sportsfreund Bronze Member @Brad_Olwin
                                        last edited by

                                        @Brad_Olwin Are you using zone sense while running or after workout ?

                                        While running zone sense on my vertical is not live working. It takes serveral minutes sometimes longer that real data is showing.

                                        Hope that Update 3.xxx bring more power to this.

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                                        • VoiGASV Offline
                                          VoiGAS Silver Members
                                          last edited by

                                          Any news about the new version / hotfix? January has passed…


                                          Race S
                                          Ambit3 Vertical

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                                            Mff73 @VoiGAS
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                                            @VoiGAS
                                            https://forum.suunto.com/post/161562

                                            Suunto Spartan Ultra (since 2016) FW: 2.8.24 (retired)
                                            Suunto Vertical all black
                                            Wife : S9PP
                                            SA: Always the latest beta :)
                                            Android 13, Galaxy S205G

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