Suunto Smart Heart Rate Belt 2

[querro7]

@Egika any news on this bug with Suunto 9 ? Belt is still not working

[VoiGAS]

@martintrail Did you try the S+ App? At least I can install it on the V1, but don’t have the belt to test it

[martintrail]

@VoiGAS Which one?

[Mitch9]

@martintrail This one:

[martintrail]

@Mitch9 aaah this one, I know but Vertical 1 isn’t listed as supported there. I will try tomorrow

[martintrail]

@Mitch9 It doesn’t work. Just as I thought.

[VoiGAS]

@martintrail Hope dies last… don’t get it why the S+ doesn’t work with V1 when there are working Apps for 3rd party accessories like Garmin Varia(!)

[martintrail]

@VoiGAS The watch just can’t read the data from the belt. It’s a shame, so we’ll see if an update comes out.

[snow*]

@VoiGAS iirc Joaquin in his review said that a special S+ will be released for V1

[Egika]

@querro7 said:

@Egika any news on this bug with Suunto 9 ? Belt is still not working

The fact is known. But obviously not easy to solve.
At the bottom of the SHRM2 website the compatibility is listed as follows:

Plus from internal tests SHRM2 is also compatible with:

• Suunto 9 Peak
• Suunto 5
• Spartan Trainer WHR
• Spartan Sport WHRB
• Karoo2
  and other devices I won’t list here.

[bubuche]

@martintrail This is in the app description: it uses metrics sent by the watch and does not connect to the belt. So same limitations than the watch.

[VoiGAS]

@bubuche Ok, that makes sense. Hopefully a “real” S+ app for the HRB2 will be released then - or an update for V1

[cosme.costa]

@VoiGAS From what I have understand in the Telegram Channel (info from Suunto’s people there is a bit boogy, so you can only guess) is that the compatibility for this metrics in Race and Race S was introduced in their last firmware update. This makes me believe that some code in the bluetooth needs to be updated in the SV1 to read these values because, if I’m not mistaken Race do not have running metrics embedded in the watch.
I hope that eventually something will come to teh SV1 and the Suunto App (which right now is not able to read the metrics) because if not I think the new belt is only intended to improve what the watches already have…I would buy it if I can get these metrics, if not I will continue using the Heart Rate Belt 1.

[matram]

Anyone compared GCT from belt with GCT from watch?

My first run with the belt gave a 45% higher GCT from the belt.

[Inge Nallsson]

@cosme.costa said:

if I’m not mistaken Race do not have running metrics embedded in the watch

Correct. A cracked rib and sprained ankle prevents me from trying it on my Race S, but here’s a picture guide of the whole chain necessary to see Live data in Running sessions. After pairing the SHRM2 to both the watch and the Suunto App, the main switch at App [upper left hand corner HR icon] -> “Running form monitoring” must be turned “On”. It is “Off” by default, to save battery:

The SuuntoPlus SHRM2 Tracker downloaded, installed and turned on in the watch session menu, eg. Running -> SuuntoPlus -> SHRM2 Tracker

Finally making sure the “Running form” data is received by the watch. On the Race S this switch was ‘On’ by default, even when the main switch in the App was “Off”:

The firmware update you understood having introduced this compatibility is smart enough to not show the “Running form” switch in any Walking session - to me that is a good sign.

[Egika]

@cosme.costa said:
if I’m not mistaken Race do not have running metrics embedded in the watch.

The information from the Suunto SHRM2 website states that running form IS available in Suunto race.
See screenshot here: https://forum.suunto.com/post/197873

[Inge Nallsson]

@matram said:

My first run with the belt gave a 45% higher GCT from the belt

My only experiences with ‘running dynamics’ are from Garmin watches and peripherals, where the data differs significantly when it came from a pod placed at the back of running shorts/pants, a HR breast belt pod or directly from a watch. Ray Maker (dcrainmaker) wrote a whole essay about this fact several years ago.

Edit: Also have experience with two generations of Stryd foot pods (though not the latest which can be used on both feet to show ‘Balance’).

[Inge Nallsson]

@Egika said:

running form IS available in Suunto race.

The question was “embedded in the watch”. That is native. First generation Race and Race S does not have that…

[Egika]

@Inge-Nallsson said:

@Egika said:

running form IS available in Suunto race.

The question was “embedded in the watch”. That is native. First generation Race and Race S does not have that…

I currently don’t have a Race here, but you are saying, that the running form metrics are not recorded by Race and Race S?
Not sure what you mean by “native”. If the watch is receiving the extra data, then it is native. If the watch is not receiving the extra data, then it is not available (like in Vertical).
In between these two could possibly be an S+ app, that connects to the belt on a separate BT channel and reveives those data. That is, what I would call “not native”. Currently an app like this does not exist, afaik.

[Inge Nallsson]

@Egika said:

but you are saying, that the running form metrics are not recorded by Race and Race S?

No, what I am saying (and how I interpreted the question), is that Suunto Run, Run2, Race2 and Vertical2 all have native running dynamics coming from sensors in the watch itself. They do not need the SHRM2 to show this data.

Race, and Race S both need the external hardware of an SHRM2.