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    oCycler - FTMS bike link: power & cadence

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      KSGravelJunkie @oleksandr
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      @oleksandr I love the idea of this and something that I have been wanting for awhile. The only quirk in my 10 minutes tinkering with it, the watch will not allow me to connect with the trainer for my main data pages at the same time as using the app. I can either get the trainer data to just the app or just the basic Suunto data pages. In other words, when the app is running I cannot also connect a power meter (the power meter being my trainer) to the watch at the same time for my main Suunto data pages. Consequently, I can’t view the other pieces of data I like to see from my trainer (like average watts, average cadence, I assume recovery time and calories burned will be affected as well if those use power readings). It also probably makes it so I can’t use my other favorite training peaks app which tracks IF, NP, and TSS.

      I’m not sure if this is a bug in the app or a limitation of the watch software. If it’s a limitation of the watch software, is it possible to add more data fields to the app? At a minimum average watts? I really would like IF and NP as well.

      BTW, I have a Kickr Bike V2. It was not connected to anything else when I was tinkering, just to the watch. And the Kickr Bike can connect up to 3 devices at once so it’s not a limitation of the bike (or shouldn’t be).

      Great work! I look forward to tinkering with it some more and using it full time. Thanks!

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        Stavrogin @raven
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        @raven Unfortunately the power portion of the Jetblack BT does not work on my Suunto V2. That is why I am asking. It only sees Cadence and something else (it has been a minute sorry) I had to connect my assiomo pedals to get power to the Suunto. So I was hoping…

        Suunto Vertical, Race, Race 2, Race S and Run. Rocking the Vertical 2 Titanium at the moment.
        Garmin: Fenix 7X, Epix Pro 51mm, Forerunner 265.
        Coros: Pace Pro, Apex 4

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          Frederick Rochette Bronze Member
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          Doesn’t work with my bike. Could you fixed it?

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            oleksandr @Frederick Rochette
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            @Frederick-Rochette I surely can try, from what I’ve seen so far this bike is slightly problematic. I will need some bluetooth data dump to make it work.
            https://forums.zwift.com/t/horizon-cr7-slow-after-zwift-new-app/583685/2
            Could you please drop me a message to the email address from the app description? I’ll let you know which data is needed and how to collect it. Alternative you can try using QZ app that would covert the signal to the proper FTMS

            Watch: Suunto Race 2
            SuuntoPlus:
            oSpotter - Workout tracker
            oCycler - Indoor cycle FTMS Link

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              oleksandr @Stavrogin
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              @Stavrogin The way SuuntoPlus SDK is imlemented is a little limiting in that regard, developers can record into the custom data fields, but can’t overwrite the standard .fit fields like power or cadence, therefore no, unfortunately the TSS is still calculated through based on HR, and the ftms collected data is simply recorded in the workout summary using the custom fields.

              Saying that, I already reached the Suunto partners contact, asking whether there are any ways to bypass that limitation, as I would like to have the proper power based TSS calculations myself.

              I’ll keep you guys posted

              Watch: Suunto Race 2
              SuuntoPlus:
              oSpotter - Workout tracker
              oCycler - Indoor cycle FTMS Link

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                oleksandr @Stavrogin
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                @Stavrogin said:

                Jetblack BT

                Maybe the power is just streamed using non-standard signature, please email me at the email listed in the app description. We can try to debug that and make a custom fix for your bike if it’s possible

                Watch: Suunto Race 2
                SuuntoPlus:
                oSpotter - Workout tracker
                oCycler - Indoor cycle FTMS Link

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                  oleksandr
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                  Future update, altough probably delayed as I can’t access my SuuntoPartner account for some reason

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                  Watch: Suunto Race 2
                  SuuntoPlus:
                  oSpotter - Workout tracker
                  oCycler - Indoor cycle FTMS Link

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                    KSGravelJunkie @oleksandr
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                    @oleksandr One thing I failed to mention in my first post, I completed a full session of testing it and it recorded my speed, power, and cadence throughout the 1 hour ride but failed to record my distance (read 0 miles throughout and 0 in the workout summary). This is on my kickr bike V2. Is this a known bug/issue you’ve seen? Any fix for it?

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                      oleksandr @KSGravelJunkie
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                      @KSGravelJunkie I’ll probably require a fix tailored to your bike specifically. Drop me an email to the address provided in the app description

                      Watch: Suunto Race 2
                      SuuntoPlus:
                      oSpotter - Workout tracker
                      oCycler - Indoor cycle FTMS Link

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                        johann.fuehrer Silver Members @KSGravelJunkie
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                        @KSGravelJunkie I ride virtually on MyWoosh on my KICKR and all metrics except the distance are recorded. I always have to edit the ride afterwards and add it manually from what I read in the application. But honestly I do not care as actually I did not move 🙂 and especially if I do some interval training the speed and distance shown there make often not realy sense to me (ERG mode thing, I believe) It’s the Watts which I’m interested in mainly…

                        "Trail running is the answer. Who cares what the question is …"

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                          KSGravelJunkie @johann.fuehrer
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                          @johann.fuehrer Thanks for the feedback! Glad I’m not the only one.

                          @oleksandr do you need a fit file? maybe I can try again and email it to you?

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