Suunto 9 Peak (review and specs)

Egika · 6 Jan 2021, 07:42

@dimitrios-kanellopoulos the screenshot above is from S9 - i am happy with this given the challenging conditions
@isazi : good idea

freeheeler · 1 Jun 2021, 07:44

@egika
for white water kayaking uphills could be filtered and maybe there’s a reasonable algorithm to detect submerging the watch: unless you take a huge waterfall drop, there’s no reason to suddenly rise the pressure.
Maybe it sounds a bit ignorant as rivers follow a certain topography and I bet some kayakers would like to record this, too… but what if only start and end alti is recorded and delta is the descent?

Dimitrios Kanellopoulos · 1 Jun 2021, 07:44

@freeheeler said in Suunto 9 Peak (review and specs):

for white water kayaking uphills could be filtered and maybe there’s a reasonable algorithm to detect submerging the watch: unless you take a huge waterfall drop, there’s no reason to suddenly rise the pressure.

we do do that. But water sticks and influsences

Dimitrios Kanellopoulos · 6 Jan 2021, 09:06

Last update and charge of the watch was 6 days exactly ago, the morning of 26th May.

All on (24/7 tracking etc) except notifications. Standbylight always on, on adoptive mode. No raise to wake as it’s not needed for this config.
White watchface
4h of GPS with Gallileo (consumes more than GPS only)
2 FW update on the 26th and 28th of the month (transfer FW via BT + install )
Several checks on the watch and playing around for pics etc
DND from 22pm to 8am
Several pairings with SA due to development

I am now at 29% battery left

I suppose its good.

dulko79 · 1 Jun 2021, 09:14

@dimitrios-kanellopoulos how often does sensor check daily heart rate, every second or within certain time interval?

Dimitrios Kanellopoulos · 1 Jun 2021, 09:15

@dulko79 some time interval not every second. I dont know the specifics but it should be around 5-10mins. It does have somewhat a cleverness there. Also it will change this a bit in the future.
But I dont think that OHR is the main drainage in battery on the s9P.

dulko79 · 1 Jun 2021, 09:22

@dimitrios-kanellopoulos cleverness, like if you are sitting still at the desk working, then you get up and start walking. Peak then changes sampling rate for hr based on movement?

Dimitrios Kanellopoulos · 6 Jan 2021, 09:23

@dulko79 Unfortunately I dont know the specifics. What I do know is that atm there are a few features missing. For example “sensing” that the watch is not worn / tight (sensor skin contact). That should come asap.

freeheeler · 1 Jun 2021, 10:33

@dimitrios-kanellopoulos
brilliant

Mff73 · 6 Jan 2021, 11:56

Question about OTA that comes to me :
If SA becomes the only way to upgrade S9P, and something went “wrong”, is there similar workaround like with Suuntolink drag’drop FW file?

pilleus · 1 Jun 2021, 12:00

@dimitrios-kanellopoulos said in Suunto 9 Peak (review and specs):

I am now at 29% battery left

YOU should be at 100 %! Life is short and every moment matters …

isazi · 1 Jun 2021, 12:01

@mff73 if something goes wrong while updating, the latest stable firmware that was on the watch is installed.

Dimitrios Kanellopoulos · 1 Jun 2021, 12:41

@mff73 you always have the last FW in the watch to be able to revert.

You can actually reset the watch without SL

A Former User · 1 Jun 2021, 14:13

@dimitrios-kanellopoulos Since you are appearing to be using the S9P as your daily driver, I have a few questions if I may:

How does adaptive backlight works under DND? Currently S9B dims the screen during DND, is this preserved or the screen will be made dim regardless of DND if it’s dark and adaptive mode is used?
What about sounds (beeping) during notifications? Anything done there? With S9B there’s no way to disable sound for notifications only. So, either you hear a beep every time a notification comes, or use DND that defies the purpose (and makes the screen dim in the process), or disable all sounds, which also carries over to activities
I’m still seeing zombie notifications on 2.14.16 and the only way to cure it appears to be restarting the watch that resets Body Resources to 50%, which reminds me…
Any improvements to Body Resources sometimes funky behavior? On 2.14.16 firmware, I had it drop from 91% to below 50% in two hours the watch was on the charger. Not cool. The other day Resources were about 20%, I went for 50 minutes weight lifting, and the value jumped to 45% Who knew some flies, curls, and cleans can supercharge you?
Last but not least, are we getting S9B sleep tracking (awake/light/deep) or S7 more advanced phase analysis (awake/light/deep/REM)?

As always, thanks a lot for any insights.

Dimitrios Kanellopoulos · 1 Jun 2021, 16:15

@nickk I have been using the s9p as my main watch for quite a few months. Since then I didn’t have any real issues with the device tbh.

The DND shuts the standby adoptive backlight off. The adaptive standby backlight means that if the sun is shinning there is no backlight. When you wake the watch up, your current backlight setting is applied. Remember in Suuntos word there is backlight (like the normal lighting) and standby light (the very small light to just make it show the time during the night).
There is no progress in SW there. Same stuff. That said I do know that the s9p “supports” more customizable vibras. Not in SW yet.
Each time the watch goes on charger it resets the resources and pauses the recovery time. I am not sure why this is like so. Lets open the discussion. There are some issues with resources also tracked here and those are delegated to FB.
IDk that. Suunto has a custom sleep tracking (in house) so I have literally no clue.

What helps is like with the S7 , Suunto listens to the demands of the consumers at launch and should pay attention to the “sentiment” demand. Good or bad? IDk. Logical sure imo.

S9P is a branch off the S9/S5/S3 line. New HW and new SW to cover the new HW. The rest move in Sync.

A Former User · 1 Jun 2021, 16:22

@dimitrios-kanellopoulos

Gotcha.

Resources behavior with respect to charging/rebooting effectively means one should charge when Resources hit around 50%. Otherwise any OCD types like me gawking over data will be losing data points I think Garmin resets to 45% on reboot and guesstimates a discharge when it’s off your wrist based on I don’t know what… But it’s not as steep as what I’m seeing on S9B.

Would be nice if notification alerts could be made vibration-only, or sounds could be turned off for everything but activities.

Should I create a topic for that and let people vote? I think we already have “future firmware” discussion.

A Former User · 1 Jun 2021, 16:24

Suunto has a custom sleep tracking (in house) so I have literally no clue.

So, you don’t sleep with S9P? And if you do, does it give you REM or just deep sleep? That’s basically a difference between S9 and S7. I thought sleep analysis was at least partially FB algos, no?

Dimitrios Kanellopoulos · 1 Jun 2021, 17:19

@nickk I sleep all the time with the s9P. That’s why I have DND.

It shows exactly the same data s9b shows.

So no rem unfortunately. Only time awake and deep sleep.

Dimitrios Kanellopoulos · 1 Jun 2021, 17:20

@nickk let’s see how we can facilitate that.

A Former User · 1 Jun 2021, 17:27

@dimitrios-kanellopoulos said in Suunto 9 Peak (review and specs):

So no rem unfortunately. Only time awake and deep sleep.

That’s quite alright. Now we know Peak takes off after its bigger brother. So, it is indeed Suunto 9 first, and Peak second.

I’m fine without REM given all existing watches’ sleep phase analysis is deeply flawed, no pun intended. Was just wondering…