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  • O Offline
    ortles Silver Members
    last edited by 30 Mar 2024, 06:51

    Ha, ha, ha, rumors say it‘s even possible to sleep and to leave your home without a gps watch on. But I‘m not sure about it.

    The main function of a gps watch to me is to provide some extra comfort under good conditions and some extra margin of safety, when conditions are bad. I think we all agree on that. 🙂

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      freeheeler @ortles
      last edited by 30 Mar 2024, 07:17

      @ortles
      but bear in mind, an activity that has not been recorded is as if it has never happened 😉

      living sideways

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        Brad_Olwin Moderator @freeheeler
        last edited by 30 Mar 2024, 12:06

        @freeheeler we welcome skiers on spatulas,

        Vector/T6c/Ambit 3 Peak/S5 Copper/S3/S7 Ti/S9 baro Ti/S9P Ti/S9PP Ti/Vertical Ti/Race Ti/RaceS/Ocean/Wing

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          fifi13013
          last edited by 22 Apr 2024, 14:54

          I tested the SR in alpine skiing, the watch is too sensitive for the count of descents which is greatly multiplied and the CO2 indication is wrong.

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            isazi Moderator @fifi13013
            last edited by 22 Apr 2024, 18:22

            @fifi13013 the number and duration of runs is not perfect, it has been reported and I hope it’ll be improved in the future. I am not sure what are you referring at with CO2.

            Watch: Suunto Vertical Ti

            Blog: isazi's home

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              fifi13013
              last edited by 23 Apr 2024, 13:47

              This is the oxygen value in the “weather” application, it tells me that 75% at 2300 meters. No problem for the altimeter compared to the city. I deactivated the map, it is of no use on the ski slopes,

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                freeheeler @fifi13013
                last edited by 23 Apr 2024, 20:46

                @fifi13013
                I am relatively confused now…

                living sideways

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                  inkognito Platinum Member @fifi13013
                  last edited by inkognito 24 Apr 2024, 11:22

                  @fifi13013

                  You can find this info in the description of Weather - Insight SuuntoPlus app:

                  Oxygen level
                  “If you are above 2000 m (6 561 ft) you will get a reading on the oxygen % compared to sea level.”

                  Suunto does not show the actual absolute percentage of oxygen in the air! That would be of no use for most people who do not remember the absolute value at sea level. The relative value that Suunto shows tells you how much oxygen is there compared to “normal” sea-level air…

                  To check the values, you can quickly calculate the relative percentage from any reference altitude to oxygen chart. I used this one: https://hypoxico.com/pages/altitude-to-oxygen-chart

                  It shows:
                  ~ 20.9% of oxygen in the air at 0 m altitude (this is 100% by definition)
                  ~ 16 % of oxygen in the air at 2134 m altitude (this is 76.6% of sea-level value)
                  ~ 15.4 % of oxygen in the air at 2438 m altitude (this is 73.7% of sea-level value)

                  Therefore I do not see anything wrong about 75% at 2300 m.

                  SV: fingers crossed :D
                  S9 (non-baro): died after 2 months, replaced, holding strong since 03/20
                  Spartan Trainer: casing broke after 23 months, repaired, lost watertightness 5 months later, died
                  Despite some pretty bad luck, I still love Suunto!

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                    fifi13013 @inkognito
                    last edited by 24 Apr 2024, 18:15

                    @inkognito Thanks a lot !

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                      giuliosq
                      last edited by 15 May 2024, 15:54

                      Im having the same problem with long treks or skitouring routes… any news on this? Thanks!

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                        soundso
                        last edited by 16 May 2024, 20:28

                        Hi! I often observed the same issue while cycling. It wasn’t a problem for me so far but doesn’t seem to be a problem specific to your watch. I also had it this week. So the issue seems to remain.

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                          giuliosq @soundso
                          last edited by 17 May 2024, 09:24

                          @soundso Thanks, lets wait then… it was a kind of major issue oince in white out and could not follow my red track back but the lue arrow which does not help cause the direction to the beginning part is something different than follow the route back (crevasses and so on…)

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                            ortles Silver Members
                            last edited by ortles 17 May 2024, 10:22

                            @giuliosq

                            Yes, the issue still persists and has to be solved by an update of firmware.

                            Suunto knows this, the only thing we can do is keep the fingers crossed and hope that they prioritize the issue as well and provide a solution with the next update. 🤞

                            I have experienced the situation you have described by myself - whiteout on a glacier and you have to find your way back around hidden crevasses with no traces left. In such a situation a track back / non-disappearing breadcrumb track is really, really useful and may be the extra margin of safety you need there.

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                              giuliosq @ortles
                              last edited by 15 Jun 2024, 11:45

                              @ortles IMG_7971.jpg

                              This is really annoying, it completely deleted the beginning of my route, the red part is missing from where I started… Ive put a yellow strip to let you see. It is literally ridicolus that you dont know where you started your route from… the blue is the tarck I was following but of course the beginning i did not follow the blue trackj but my own and on the way back I could not follow it back

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                                isazi Moderator
                                last edited by 15 Jun 2024, 12:57

                                Okay, I don’t have any official answer, but a person testing the next software release for the Race told me he did a 8 hours mountain run few weeks ago and didn’t have the issue.

                                I’ll post again if I get an official comment.

                                Watch: Suunto Vertical Ti

                                Blog: isazi's home

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                                  freeheeler @isazi
                                  last edited by freeheeler 15 Jun 2024, 15:15

                                  @isazi
                                  I can second this observation. didn’t notice this issue this morning on my 4h run.
                                  however I don’t know exactly when this issue happened in the past (or after what time or distance)

                                  living sideways

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                                  • fondueaufromageF Offline
                                    fondueaufromage Bronze Member
                                    last edited by 15 Jun 2024, 16:01

                                    I don’t have the exact answer but I did several tests and I noticed that the problem only appears when there is a difference in height. A 10 hour recording to and from work (then with very little elevation gain) posed no problem whereas I observed the problem after 3 hours of ski touring and 1600m of D+.

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                                      freeheeler @fondueaufromage
                                      last edited by 15 Jun 2024, 16:14

                                      @fondueaufromage
                                      ok… I’ll keep this in mind for testing next time.

                                      living sideways

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                                        ortles Silver Members
                                        last edited by 15 Jun 2024, 22:03

                                        I had the issue on every of my skimo / mountaineering trips so far. Breadcrumb line was always incomplete, only the first section was / is there. At some point, the red track has always ended when I tried to follow it back.

                                        This is quite annoying for some purposes and in certain situations is a real disadvantage (not to mention any safety concerns here).

                                        So it would be super cool if the issue is fixed with the next update.

                                        Keep the fingers crossed for that, I am really waiting for this. Suunto knows this issue right from the beginning, I guess, and vertical is now more than one year old.

                                        I mean the possibility to track back the route you have been taking so far (not the track you have uploaded maybe in advance!) is absolutely basic for any gps tool - not to speak of a watch which is designed as an ‚adventure watch for outdoor expeditions‘ that should be ,a companion for the highest peaks‘ (I am just quoting Suunto here).

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                                        • pavel.samokhaP Offline
                                          pavel.samokha
                                          last edited by 3 Jul 2024, 13:01

                                          I think this issue should be fixed in the latest FW, but I can’t say that with 100% confidence, so someone need to test on really long activity

                                          Opinions expressed are solely my own and do not express the views or opinions of my employer

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