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    whl_89 Bronze Member @Saketo Nemo
    last edited by 21 Jun 2019, 14:25

    @Saketo-Nemo

    S5:
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    SSU:
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      Dušan Ković
      last edited by Dušan Ković 21 Jun 2019, 14:41

      Out of curiosity, I wanted to see the altitude diference, so I imported both to QS:

      S5:

      suunto 5.jpg

      SSU:

      SSU.jpg

      Both have similar graph shape and are in similar altitude ranges, but SSU seems a bit jagged compared to the S5 which looks smooth. Not sure which one is correct. But I’m guessing that SSU has more altitude difference because all those small spikes, also bigger drops in altitude on multiple places.

      SR
      SA latest beta
      Polar Verity Sense
      Pixel 6

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        whl_89 Bronze Member @Dušan Ković
        last edited by 21 Jun 2019, 14:43

        @Dušan-Ković If i plan this route in komoot or Suunto App altitude differences of ssu is quite correct and s5 ist about 50%. SSU works fine i think

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          Dušan Ković @whl_89
          last edited by 21 Jun 2019, 14:46

          @whl_89 One of my friends wants to buy S5, so I’m searching for possible problems with watch. Maybe this is one of the problems with S5. Have you tried GPS, GPS+GLONASS or GPS + GALILEO on the same route with S5?

          SR
          SA latest beta
          Polar Verity Sense
          Pixel 6

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            suzzlo Moderator @whl_89
            last edited by 21 Jun 2019, 14:46

            @whl_89 same here

            Suunto: Race, S9Peak, Spartan Sport Wrist
            Garmin: FR745, Edge 530
            SA topics:

            • Guides - https://forum.suunto.com/tags/guides
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              whl_89 Bronze Member @Dušan Ković
              last edited by 21 Jun 2019, 16:08

              @Dušan-Ković i would still recommend it great watch

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                Armin S. @Dušan Ković
                last edited by Armin S. 21 Jun 2019, 16:20

                @Dušan-Ković YES, there is a little problem ☺
                Run 16.6. with S5 GPS+Galileo. After 0:30 it’s very faulty:
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                Same route 10.6. with S3F (connected GPS):
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                Same days and same routs exports to Strava:
                16.6.
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                10.6.
                345CAFAE-87CA-4C2A-9ECA-11E3CED13A0F.jpeg

                Start level 40…42m, highest point 50…52m would be correct!

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                  sartoric Moderator @Dušan Ković
                  last edited by sartoric 21 Jun 2019, 16:58

                  @Dušan-Ković said in Suunto 5:

                  @whl_89 One of my friends wants to buy S5, so I’m searching for possible problems with watch. Maybe this is one of the problems with S5. Have you tried GPS, GPS+GLONASS or GPS + GALILEO on the same route with S5?

                  My 2 cents … if he’s some kind of mountaineer , tell him to go for a baro watch otherwise GPS only is ok.

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                    Dušan Ković @sartoric
                    last edited by Dušan Ković 21 Jun 2019, 20:45

                    @sartoric @Armin-S @whl_89 Thanks to all. I’ll send him the link to this thread 🙂

                    SR
                    SA latest beta
                    Polar Verity Sense
                    Pixel 6

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                      Brad_Olwin Moderator @whl_89
                      last edited by Brad_Olwin 21 Jun 2019, 21:19

                      @whl_89 said in Suunto 5:

                      I bought my girlfriend a s5 and after a fews runs i am a bit confused because the ascent recorded by the watch is about 50% of the real ascent. I use the ssu. I know s5 has no baro but at least it should record the GPS ascent which is about the same i her from the ssu. Is this a known issue?

                      I have done a lot of runs with both the S5 and S9 together, most of the time on the same arm. The S5 is always short in altitude, I mentioned this much earlier in the thread. If you care a lot about real time vertical it is not the right watch. However, I rarely see 50%, most of the time my differences are below 20%. The worst scenario for the S5 are lots of small hills as it does not record a change unless 7m. On big climbs it is much better. If you like I can post some of my SkiMo runs or runs with at least 500m altitude change. I do think that GSP+Galileo gives better altitude readings on the S5 but I have not thoroughly analyzed this yet. Third party sites (Strava, etc) will correct the altitude so in the end it isn’t that big a deal in my opinion.
                      I still think the S5 is a great watch and most of the time I use it for my weekday runs and just let the 3rd party apps correct the altitude. The SSU and S5 should be similar for ascent. Make sure AGPS is current and I would use GPS+Galileo.

                      Vector/T6c/Ambit 3 Peak/S5 Copper/S3/S7 Ti/S9 baro Ti/S9P Ti/S9PP Ti/Vertical Ti/Race Ti/RaceS/Ocean/Wing

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                        Dušan Ković @Brad_Olwin
                        last edited by 22 Jun 2019, 05:05

                        @Brad_Olwin maybe suunto app should add altitude correction as one of the features. So users can choose to see corrected altitude and original as watch recorded

                        SR
                        SA latest beta
                        Polar Verity Sense
                        Pixel 6

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                          Brad_Olwin Moderator @Dušan Ković
                          last edited by 23 Jun 2019, 14:25

                          @Dušan-Ković Probably not a bad idea but… if you have more than one watch as do I, I would want the setting toggled. Better yet, the app could detect you have a watch with no barometer and automatically correct. Maybe this should be added as a feature suggestion?

                          Vector/T6c/Ambit 3 Peak/S5 Copper/S3/S7 Ti/S9 baro Ti/S9P Ti/S9PP Ti/Vertical Ti/Race Ti/RaceS/Ocean/Wing

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                            Dušan Ković @Brad_Olwin
                            last edited by 23 Jun 2019, 16:28

                            @Brad_Olwin I don’t have two watches, I only have S9B, but elevation correction would be good for users with non Baro watches. It should be implemented to SA. Also, users with Baro watches could check if altitudes are correct.

                            SR
                            SA latest beta
                            Polar Verity Sense
                            Pixel 6

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                              Brad_Olwin Moderator @Dušan Ković
                              last edited by 23 Jun 2019, 22:58

                              @Dušan-Ković said in Suunto 5:

                              @Brad_Olwin I don’t have two watches, I only have S9B, but elevation correction would be good for users with non Baro watches. It should be implemented to SA. Also, users with Baro watches could check if altitudes are correct.

                              The correction for Altitude is less precise than the barometric watches, I have checked this many times on Training Peaks. It depends on the filters are algorithms used.

                              Vector/T6c/Ambit 3 Peak/S5 Copper/S3/S7 Ti/S9 baro Ti/S9P Ti/S9PP Ti/Vertical Ti/Race Ti/RaceS/Ocean/Wing

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                                dulko79
                                last edited by 1 Jul 2019, 14:18

                                One little remark regarding the strap. During sport activity the watch should be worn 2 fingers above the wrist bone to get good HR reading. For some users due to this position the strap could be too short or on the limit, therefore slight increase of strap length could be useful. ☺

                                App: beta
                                Phone: Iphone
                                iOS

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                                  vicaroka
                                  last edited by 23 Aug 2019, 09:13

                                  Hi!

                                  I am a new Suunto 5 user, and the watch keeps restarting and freezing after some minutes. The down arrow is displayed, and after a hard reset, the issue repeats after some minutes. Did software update to latest, not using movescount (only Suunto app).
                                  Any suggestions?

                                  Many thanks.
                                  KR

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                                    sartoric Moderator @vicaroka
                                    last edited by sartoric 23 Aug 2019, 09:51

                                    @vicaroka said in Suunto 5:

                                    The down arrow is displayed, and after a hard reset, the issue repeats after some minutes

                                    What do you mean for hard reset, factory reset + re-flashing the FW ?

                                    Maybe it’s a defective unit. Contact support via email

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                                      vicaroka
                                      last edited by 23 Aug 2019, 11:12

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                                        vicaroka @sartoric
                                        last edited by 23 Aug 2019, 11:14

                                        @sartoric
                                        Yep, soft-reset: upper right+left button for 12 sec
                                        hard-reset: from Suntoolink to flash firmware again.

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                                          sartoric Moderator @vicaroka
                                          last edited by 23 Aug 2019, 11:51

                                          @vicaroka
                                          So the best option is to contact support

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                                          Samsung A33 2022 - Android 14 - One UI 6.1
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