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    • mikekoski490M Offline
      mikekoski490 Bronze Member
      last edited by mikekoski490

      I’m starting to get this issue after hotfix. About 25% of my workouts get the grid with no map. Anyone else?

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      Past Suuntos: X-Lander/Observer/T6/X9/X10/X6HR/CORES/Ambits/Spartan/9P/9PP Ti/Vertical Ti

      Current: Suunto Race Ti

      Past other GPS watches: Polar Vantage V; Garmin 6X Pro Solar; Coros Vertix 2

      Suunto App running on Google Pixel 8/Android 14

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      • sartoricS Offline
        sartoric Moderator @mikekoski490
        last edited by

        @mikekoski490
        did you reload the map ?

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        • mikekoski490M Offline
          mikekoski490 Bronze Member @sartoric
          last edited by

          @sartoric Yes. I did a complete reset and reloaded 2 maps. Took 4.5 hours. The maps show up sometimes / sometimes not.

          Past Suuntos: X-Lander/Observer/T6/X9/X10/X6HR/CORES/Ambits/Spartan/9P/9PP Ti/Vertical Ti

          Current: Suunto Race Ti

          Past other GPS watches: Polar Vantage V; Garmin 6X Pro Solar; Coros Vertix 2

          Suunto App running on Google Pixel 8/Android 14

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            Sascha Domres Bronze Member @Racoon6
            last edited by

            @Racoon6 made a trip to cologne today. My watch didn’t show a map although I downloaded the whole of Germany… Soft reset didn’t work… the map works 150 km away in my home town of Hesse… The vertical is really unreliable

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            • sartoricS Offline
              sartoric Moderator @Sascha Domres
              last edited by

              @Sascha-Domres
              did you get a GPS fix ?

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                Sascha Domres Bronze Member @sartoric
                last edited by

                @sartoric yes, there were no problems with the recording… I restarted the clock twice… unfortunately no map to be seen…

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                • Pablo Bretón GarcíaP Offline
                  Pablo Bretón García
                  last edited by

                  me the same after the last hotfix. I did a softreset and redownloaded the maps but I can not see the maps

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                  • mikekoski490M Offline
                    mikekoski490 Bronze Member
                    last edited by

                    Still no maps for me. Went on a bikepacking trip and did not get any maps for the days away, and just went on a 2 hour local ride from my house and did not get maps again - just the black screen with the grid.

                    Past Suuntos: X-Lander/Observer/T6/X9/X10/X6HR/CORES/Ambits/Spartan/9P/9PP Ti/Vertical Ti

                    Current: Suunto Race Ti

                    Past other GPS watches: Polar Vantage V; Garmin 6X Pro Solar; Coros Vertix 2

                    Suunto App running on Google Pixel 8/Android 14

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                    • freeheelerF Offline
                      freeheeler @mikekoski490
                      last edited by

                      @mikekoski490
                      did you try a soft reset?
                      if so and it didn’t help, please send logs and pm account name and time logs sent

                      living sideways

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                      • mikekoski490M Offline
                        mikekoski490 Bronze Member @freeheeler
                        last edited by

                        @freeheeler Ya. 2 soft resets. One big reset and re downloading of all my maps. They work for a bit, or not. I’ll wait for some kind of firmware update.

                        Past Suuntos: X-Lander/Observer/T6/X9/X10/X6HR/CORES/Ambits/Spartan/9P/9PP Ti/Vertical Ti

                        Current: Suunto Race Ti

                        Past other GPS watches: Polar Vantage V; Garmin 6X Pro Solar; Coros Vertix 2

                        Suunto App running on Google Pixel 8/Android 14

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                        • freeheelerF Offline
                          freeheeler @mikekoski490
                          last edited by

                          @mikekoski490
                          sorry to hear that it didn’t help. in order to improve it, the developers need:

                          • Issue description
                          • Location coordinates
                          • Device Logs sent (incl date and time)
                          • SA email used for maps
                          • What adjacent maps are installed

                          please pm me once you observe this issue again.

                          living sideways

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                          • Jan KrejčíJ Offline
                            Jan Krejčí @mikekoski490
                            last edited by

                            @mikekoski490 Same here. Unfortunately the soft reset hack stopped working for me as well. Even though I restart my watch after every route update, I get black tiles again

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                            • C Offline
                              colinmacdon Bronze Member
                              last edited by

                              Downloaded 2 maps (not adjacent), updated firmware. Soft reset, maps worked for a few runs, then failed for two bike rides. Nothing but black tiles, various zoom levels. Logs sent. Who should I message further details to?

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                              • zhang965Z Offline
                                zhang965 @colinmacdon
                                last edited by

                                @colinmacdon said in No-Map-Problem:

                                Downloaded 2 maps (not adjacent), updated firmware. Soft reset, maps worked for a few runs, then failed for two bike rides. Nothing but black tiles, various zoom levels. Logs sent. Who should I message further details to?

                                How could it be, our great tester said no issue happened on his watch, you are must lieing

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                                • Brad_OlwinB Offline
                                  Brad_Olwin Moderator @zhang965
                                  last edited by

                                  @zhang965 I did not say no issues happened. I did say on the current firmware that I have not had crashes or map issues. That’s all. Hope I clarified what I stated for you.

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                                  • C Offline
                                    colinmacdon Bronze Member
                                    last edited by

                                    Deleted map for my region, re-downloaded, reset, still black tiles. As some have touched on, are there “early” units out there suffering from hardware issues? Also, I have had to calibrate the compass every single day–I thought this was fixed with latest firmware?

                                    What is the next course of action, return to place of sale, initiate a warranty claim? The store I purchased from only has a 30 day window of returns.

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                                    • sartoricS Offline
                                      sartoric Moderator @colinmacdon
                                      last edited by

                                      @colinmacdon said in No-Map-Problem:

                                      What is the next course of action, return to place of sale, initiate a warranty claim? The store I purchased from only has a 30 day window of returns.

                                      Contact Suunto support or return it to the seller.
                                      It’s basically a personal choice

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                                      Samsung A33 2022 - Android 14 - One UI 6.1
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                                      • J Offline
                                        Jugger
                                        last edited by

                                        I also had black map problem just 25km away from my home. It was still same region. When I got back it was still black. Reset did help me and after that it worked almost 500km away with no problem. Haven’t happened since.
                                        Compass seems to be very sensitive to magnets. I just tried with my phonecase. One close swipe over watch causes need for calibration. I wouldn’t worry about it so much.

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                                        • freeheelerF Offline
                                          freeheeler @colinmacdon
                                          last edited by freeheeler

                                          @colinmacdon
                                          I support what @Jugger says with the sensitivity for magnets. it’s generally the case for my watches… helmet or backpack locks un-calibrate it very easily.

                                          regarding the maps, (in general) this is unlikely related to hardware. I have noticed myself some regions that didn’t work. it’s very difficult to check in advance what regions are affected. often new start of the watch helps. if it doesn’t, we need logs, account details, adjacent map (if applicable) and the area that’s having issues. I’m sure it’s not the entire map that’s affected

                                          living sideways

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                                            Freezer Bronze Member @Jugger
                                            last edited by

                                            @isazi @Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos I have also begun to experience map (rendering) problems with the Vertical. Certain tiles will not render, sometimes at just a certain zoom level, sometimes across all of them. A soft reset will temporarily resolve the issue.

                                            Today’s test in photos: [started exercise - Walk] pic1 - location; pic2 - no map (@500); pic3 - map OK (@200, also @100) [stopped and saved exercise, entered maps from the main menu, NO map shown @500][Suunto app sync, LOGS SENT at 07:53 UTC] [soft reset] [started exercise - Walk] pic4 - map OK (@500, also @200, @100), pic5 - location.

                                            I believe the map (rendering) problem starts to occur when Vertical overheats (e.g. solar charging on a table) and does not go away when the watch cools down (must soft reset).

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