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    • mikekoski490M Offline
      mikekoski490 Bronze Member @sartoric
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      @sartoric Yes. I did a complete reset and reloaded 2 maps. Took 4.5 hours. The maps show up sometimes / sometimes not.

      Past Suuntos: X-Lander/Observer/T6/X9/X10/X6HR/CORES/Ambits/Spartan/9P/9PP Ti/Vertical Ti

      Current: Suunto Race Ti

      Past other GPS watches: Polar Vantage V; Garmin 6X Pro Solar; Coros Vertix 2

      Suunto App running on Google Pixel 8/Android 14

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        Sascha Domres Bronze Member @Racoon6
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        @Racoon6 made a trip to cologne today. My watch didn’t show a map although I downloaded the whole of Germany… Soft reset didn’t work… the map works 150 km away in my home town of Hesse… The vertical is really unreliable

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        • sartoricS Offline
          sartoric Moderator @Sascha Domres
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          @Sascha-Domres
          did you get a GPS fix ?

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            Sascha Domres Bronze Member @sartoric
            last edited by

            @sartoric yes, there were no problems with the recording… I restarted the clock twice… unfortunately no map to be seen…

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            • Pablo Bretón GarcíaP Offline
              Pablo Bretón García
              last edited by

              me the same after the last hotfix. I did a softreset and redownloaded the maps but I can not see the maps

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              • mikekoski490M Offline
                mikekoski490 Bronze Member
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                Still no maps for me. Went on a bikepacking trip and did not get any maps for the days away, and just went on a 2 hour local ride from my house and did not get maps again - just the black screen with the grid.

                Past Suuntos: X-Lander/Observer/T6/X9/X10/X6HR/CORES/Ambits/Spartan/9P/9PP Ti/Vertical Ti

                Current: Suunto Race Ti

                Past other GPS watches: Polar Vantage V; Garmin 6X Pro Solar; Coros Vertix 2

                Suunto App running on Google Pixel 8/Android 14

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                • freeheelerF Offline
                  freeheeler @mikekoski490
                  last edited by

                  @mikekoski490
                  did you try a soft reset?
                  if so and it didn’t help, please send logs and pm account name and time logs sent

                  living sideways

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                  • mikekoski490M Offline
                    mikekoski490 Bronze Member @freeheeler
                    last edited by

                    @freeheeler Ya. 2 soft resets. One big reset and re downloading of all my maps. They work for a bit, or not. I’ll wait for some kind of firmware update.

                    Past Suuntos: X-Lander/Observer/T6/X9/X10/X6HR/CORES/Ambits/Spartan/9P/9PP Ti/Vertical Ti

                    Current: Suunto Race Ti

                    Past other GPS watches: Polar Vantage V; Garmin 6X Pro Solar; Coros Vertix 2

                    Suunto App running on Google Pixel 8/Android 14

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                    • freeheelerF Offline
                      freeheeler @mikekoski490
                      last edited by

                      @mikekoski490
                      sorry to hear that it didn’t help. in order to improve it, the developers need:

                      • Issue description
                      • Location coordinates
                      • Device Logs sent (incl date and time)
                      • SA email used for maps
                      • What adjacent maps are installed

                      please pm me once you observe this issue again.

                      living sideways

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                      • Jan KrejčíJ Offline
                        Jan Krejčí @mikekoski490
                        last edited by

                        @mikekoski490 Same here. Unfortunately the soft reset hack stopped working for me as well. Even though I restart my watch after every route update, I get black tiles again

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                          colinmacdon Bronze Member
                          last edited by

                          Downloaded 2 maps (not adjacent), updated firmware. Soft reset, maps worked for a few runs, then failed for two bike rides. Nothing but black tiles, various zoom levels. Logs sent. Who should I message further details to?

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                          • zhang965Z Offline
                            zhang965 @colinmacdon
                            last edited by

                            @colinmacdon said in No-Map-Problem:

                            Downloaded 2 maps (not adjacent), updated firmware. Soft reset, maps worked for a few runs, then failed for two bike rides. Nothing but black tiles, various zoom levels. Logs sent. Who should I message further details to?

                            How could it be, our great tester said no issue happened on his watch, you are must lieing

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                            • Brad_OlwinB Offline
                              Brad_Olwin Moderator @zhang965
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                              @zhang965 I did not say no issues happened. I did say on the current firmware that I have not had crashes or map issues. That’s all. Hope I clarified what I stated for you.

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                              • C Offline
                                colinmacdon Bronze Member
                                last edited by

                                Deleted map for my region, re-downloaded, reset, still black tiles. As some have touched on, are there “early” units out there suffering from hardware issues? Also, I have had to calibrate the compass every single day–I thought this was fixed with latest firmware?

                                What is the next course of action, return to place of sale, initiate a warranty claim? The store I purchased from only has a 30 day window of returns.

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                                • sartoricS Offline
                                  sartoric Moderator @colinmacdon
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                                  @colinmacdon said in No-Map-Problem:

                                  What is the next course of action, return to place of sale, initiate a warranty claim? The store I purchased from only has a 30 day window of returns.

                                  Contact Suunto support or return it to the seller.
                                  It’s basically a personal choice

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                                  • J Offline
                                    Jugger
                                    last edited by

                                    I also had black map problem just 25km away from my home. It was still same region. When I got back it was still black. Reset did help me and after that it worked almost 500km away with no problem. Haven’t happened since.
                                    Compass seems to be very sensitive to magnets. I just tried with my phonecase. One close swipe over watch causes need for calibration. I wouldn’t worry about it so much.

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                                    • freeheelerF Offline
                                      freeheeler @colinmacdon
                                      last edited by freeheeler

                                      @colinmacdon
                                      I support what @Jugger says with the sensitivity for magnets. it’s generally the case for my watches… helmet or backpack locks un-calibrate it very easily.

                                      regarding the maps, (in general) this is unlikely related to hardware. I have noticed myself some regions that didn’t work. it’s very difficult to check in advance what regions are affected. often new start of the watch helps. if it doesn’t, we need logs, account details, adjacent map (if applicable) and the area that’s having issues. I’m sure it’s not the entire map that’s affected

                                      living sideways

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                                        Freezer Bronze Member @Jugger
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                                        @isazi @Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos I have also begun to experience map (rendering) problems with the Vertical. Certain tiles will not render, sometimes at just a certain zoom level, sometimes across all of them. A soft reset will temporarily resolve the issue.

                                        Today’s test in photos: [started exercise - Walk] pic1 - location; pic2 - no map (@500); pic3 - map OK (@200, also @100) [stopped and saved exercise, entered maps from the main menu, NO map shown @500][Suunto app sync, LOGS SENT at 07:53 UTC] [soft reset] [started exercise - Walk] pic4 - map OK (@500, also @200, @100), pic5 - location.

                                        I believe the map (rendering) problem starts to occur when Vertical overheats (e.g. solar charging on a table) and does not go away when the watch cools down (must soft reset).

                                        Pic1.png Pic2.png Pic3.png Pic4.png Pic5.png

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                                        • Brad_OlwinB Offline
                                          Brad_Olwin Moderator @colinmacdon
                                          last edited by

                                          @colinmacdon This is not likely a hardware issue, there may be some map regions that remain problematic. Earlier in this thread are instructions on how to report black tiles and no map issue.

                                          Vector/T6c/Ambit 3 Peak/S5 Copper/S3/S7 Ti/S9 baro Ti/S9P Ti/S9PP Ti/Vertical Ti/Race Ti/RaceS/Ocean/Wing

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                                          • freeheelerF Offline
                                            freeheeler @Brad_Olwin
                                            last edited by

                                            @Brad_Olwin
                                            we did that with the logs from 3 days ago. not so with the laatest ones afair

                                            living sideways

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