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    • freeheelerF Offline
      freeheeler @mikekoski490
      last edited by

      @mikekoski490
      did you try a soft reset?
      if so and it didn’t help, please send logs and pm account name and time logs sent

      living sideways

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      • mikekoski490M Offline
        mikekoski490 Bronze Member @freeheeler
        last edited by

        @freeheeler Ya. 2 soft resets. One big reset and re downloading of all my maps. They work for a bit, or not. I’ll wait for some kind of firmware update.

        Past Suuntos: X-Lander/Observer/T6/X9/X10/X6HR/CORES/Ambits/Spartan/9P/9PP Ti/Vertical Ti

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        • freeheelerF Offline
          freeheeler @mikekoski490
          last edited by

          @mikekoski490
          sorry to hear that it didn’t help. in order to improve it, the developers need:

          • Issue description
          • Location coordinates
          • Device Logs sent (incl date and time)
          • SA email used for maps
          • What adjacent maps are installed

          please pm me once you observe this issue again.

          living sideways

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          • Jan KrejčíJ Offline
            Jan Krejčí @mikekoski490
            last edited by

            @mikekoski490 Same here. Unfortunately the soft reset hack stopped working for me as well. Even though I restart my watch after every route update, I get black tiles again

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            • C Offline
              colinmacdon Bronze Member
              last edited by

              Downloaded 2 maps (not adjacent), updated firmware. Soft reset, maps worked for a few runs, then failed for two bike rides. Nothing but black tiles, various zoom levels. Logs sent. Who should I message further details to?

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              • zhang965Z Offline
                zhang965 @colinmacdon
                last edited by

                @colinmacdon said in No-Map-Problem:

                Downloaded 2 maps (not adjacent), updated firmware. Soft reset, maps worked for a few runs, then failed for two bike rides. Nothing but black tiles, various zoom levels. Logs sent. Who should I message further details to?

                How could it be, our great tester said no issue happened on his watch, you are must lieing

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                • Brad_OlwinB Offline
                  Brad_Olwin Moderator @zhang965
                  last edited by

                  @zhang965 I did not say no issues happened. I did say on the current firmware that I have not had crashes or map issues. That’s all. Hope I clarified what I stated for you.

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                  • C Offline
                    colinmacdon Bronze Member
                    last edited by

                    Deleted map for my region, re-downloaded, reset, still black tiles. As some have touched on, are there “early” units out there suffering from hardware issues? Also, I have had to calibrate the compass every single day–I thought this was fixed with latest firmware?

                    What is the next course of action, return to place of sale, initiate a warranty claim? The store I purchased from only has a 30 day window of returns.

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                    • sartoricS Offline
                      sartoric Moderator @colinmacdon
                      last edited by

                      @colinmacdon said in No-Map-Problem:

                      What is the next course of action, return to place of sale, initiate a warranty claim? The store I purchased from only has a 30 day window of returns.

                      Contact Suunto support or return it to the seller.
                      It’s basically a personal choice

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                      • J Offline
                        Jugger
                        last edited by

                        I also had black map problem just 25km away from my home. It was still same region. When I got back it was still black. Reset did help me and after that it worked almost 500km away with no problem. Haven’t happened since.
                        Compass seems to be very sensitive to magnets. I just tried with my phonecase. One close swipe over watch causes need for calibration. I wouldn’t worry about it so much.

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                        • freeheelerF Offline
                          freeheeler @colinmacdon
                          last edited by freeheeler

                          @colinmacdon
                          I support what @Jugger says with the sensitivity for magnets. it’s generally the case for my watches… helmet or backpack locks un-calibrate it very easily.

                          regarding the maps, (in general) this is unlikely related to hardware. I have noticed myself some regions that didn’t work. it’s very difficult to check in advance what regions are affected. often new start of the watch helps. if it doesn’t, we need logs, account details, adjacent map (if applicable) and the area that’s having issues. I’m sure it’s not the entire map that’s affected

                          living sideways

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                            Freezer Bronze Member @Jugger
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                            @isazi @Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos I have also begun to experience map (rendering) problems with the Vertical. Certain tiles will not render, sometimes at just a certain zoom level, sometimes across all of them. A soft reset will temporarily resolve the issue.

                            Today’s test in photos: [started exercise - Walk] pic1 - location; pic2 - no map (@500); pic3 - map OK (@200, also @100) [stopped and saved exercise, entered maps from the main menu, NO map shown @500][Suunto app sync, LOGS SENT at 07:53 UTC] [soft reset] [started exercise - Walk] pic4 - map OK (@500, also @200, @100), pic5 - location.

                            I believe the map (rendering) problem starts to occur when Vertical overheats (e.g. solar charging on a table) and does not go away when the watch cools down (must soft reset).

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                            • Brad_OlwinB Offline
                              Brad_Olwin Moderator @colinmacdon
                              last edited by

                              @colinmacdon This is not likely a hardware issue, there may be some map regions that remain problematic. Earlier in this thread are instructions on how to report black tiles and no map issue.

                              Vector/T6c/Ambit 3 Peak/S5 Copper/S3/S7 Ti/S9 baro Ti/S9P Ti/S9PP Ti/Vertical Ti/Race Ti/RaceS/Ocean/Wing

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                              • freeheelerF Offline
                                freeheeler @Brad_Olwin
                                last edited by

                                @Brad_Olwin
                                we did that with the logs from 3 days ago. not so with the laatest ones afair

                                living sideways

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                                  colinmacdon Bronze Member @Brad_Olwin
                                  last edited by

                                  @Brad_Olwin Thanks I sent the logs to @freeheeler. It just seems strange that problematic regions would work at all, and that a reboot would temporarily fix this issue.

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                                    colinmacdon Bronze Member @freeheeler
                                    last edited by

                                    @freeheeler yes the compass is not a big deal. It’s just that my Vertical has sat on a shelf for the last 3 days, not near a magnet, and today I open the compass…and it requires a calibration.

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                                    • Maxime TeyssierM Offline
                                      Maxime Teyssier @Dimitrios Kanellopoulos
                                      last edited by

                                      @Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos I have similar issues, and your solution does not work.
                                      The watch does not even deletes the maps I was able to download.
                                      I did hard/soft reset, re-install the Suunto App… Nothing changes.
                                      When is the next update planned for?
                                      Many thanks!

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                                      • runomaticR Offline
                                        runomatic Silver Members
                                        last edited by runomatic

                                        I had the problem over the weekend. Strangely enough, exactly this map have always worked so far. After a reboot it works again. But that can not be the purpose.

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                                        • Mff73M Offline
                                          Mff73 @runomatic
                                          last edited by

                                          @runomatic
                                          It can exactly be part of the purpose : it can really be something else than the map itself, map not display is the symptom, what is the cause 😔.
                                          I had once also, same as you, working, not working, reset and working again. Still same map and happen once only.

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                                          • Jan KrejčíJ Offline
                                            Jan Krejčí
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                                            So even with soft reset after loading the map to the watch, I got black squares again. Whole 371 kilometres during my Ultra ride. Not a pleasant experience.
                                            I bought Suunto Vertical specifically for the maps. Which are not working. This issue has been posted for a long time but still no progress.
                                            I wanted to like Suunto because I like the design and minimalism. But I need a reliable watch so I filed for a refund and will be buying some other brand.
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