Suunto Plus apps

[herlas]

tried today S+ ghost app, liked it a lot, also noticed this S+ does have the HR gauge available.
Any chance the HR gauge comes to more S+ apps? I’d be great to see it on Last KM, Manual intervals etc etc

[fluca]

@DMytro I recently got myself a Bryton Gardia 300, which is a bike tail light and proximity radar.
https://www.brytonsport.com/#/GardiaR300L
I intend to use for safety. Unlike the Garmin Varia series (who need a compatible device afaik) this also can connect with smartphones via an dedicate app (via BT) to give proximity alert.
By the same token, it would be nice to have an S+ app to connect the Gardia which would vibrate/beep and give proximity info on the watch face.

[Likarnik]

@fluca that would be awesome, but how would you implement this? AFAIK on bike computer you can have normal screen and just a line with vehicles on side. S+ only to connect, but I would like to see my normal data on screen, not just who is behind me… not sure how to deal with this. If you ride on busy road, normal alert like zones/navigation would be too much as you would barely see hr/power/speed etc. because of bryton/s+ alerts. I’ll buy radar light first day that this works

[DMytro]

@fluca sounds quite cool actually, maybe you could contact the manufacturer and ask if they’re interested? I think they have to request the toolkit from suunto and then work on an app together.

[Łukasz Szmigiel]

@DMytro I wonder if it’s possible for S+ app to steal the focus if it’s not currently displayed? If not, only vibration and / or sound would be possible.

[DMytro]

@Łukasz-Szmigiel that’s another thing I’d like suunto to implement actually. Some s+ apps would benefit from that imo

[Highlands]

I wonder if the fat burner app and aerobic decoupling can’t be combined into one app and changing screens. And of course, a HR gauge rainbow at the top?

[DMytro]

@Highlands a bit different functionality tho, no? E.g. I want to go hiking, I don’t care about decoupling, especially in challenging terrain, while I could (personally I don’t) care about calories.

[Highlands]

@DMytro Aerobic decoupling doesn’t work for hiking? I haven’t used it so far in hiking because I use the two slots for other apps.

[DMytro]

@Highlands technically it does, but it wouldn’t make too much sense I think? Bc when you ascend and descend, HR can be very different, speed as well. Likewise if there’s some scrambling/via ferrata - so it’s too difficult to draw any conclusions from decoupling.

[Highlands]

@DMytro Then, I think for faster hiking or trail running must be OK?

[isazi]

@Highlands aerobic decoupling makes sense only if all segments are the same. If there are differences that affect pace/HR then it is broken, because the difference that you may see in the decoupling will be caused by external factors and not pace/HR.

[Highlands]

@isazi Got it. Thanks

[Croatoan]

What do you guys use for biking (no power meter)
Burner is ok but if there are no climbs, I dont know what to activate. Maybe weather but that can be mostly achived in the backgound.

[freeheeler]

@Croatoan
I use HR zones frequently

[Egika]

@Croatoan nothing. No need to activate an S+ all the time

[Łukasz Szmigiel]

@isazi Hm, why not filter the asc/desc segments in decoupling? Wouldn’t it help in getting the app more useful?

[isazi]

@Łukasz-Szmigiel no, decoupling makes sense if the course is the same, always, there is no need to use it if you know that your course is changing continuously. Decoupling can be used to test your aerobic capacity, but tests require discipline and planning.

[Łukasz Szmigiel]

@isazi so basically that would require a treadmil or a raceway. Even changing ground or wind can skew the results.

[isazi]

@Łukasz-Szmigiel I usually do the tests (aerobic/anaerobic) doing loops in a park, always the same park, so that terrain is similar. Of course I am not the same every day, nor is the weather, but it is a good approximation. Your idea of filtering data would not work because the effect of terrain on your body would still be measured.
Example: your route is flat, then climbs, then descends, than is flat again. If we filter ascent and descent, in the last flat section we will still feel in the body the fatigue of the previous ascent descent, possibly have a higher HR and skewing the results.