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    Highlands @DMytro
    last edited by 14 Jul 2023, 08:32

    @DMytro Then, I think for faster hiking or trail running must be OK?

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      isazi Moderator @Highlands
      last edited by 14 Jul 2023, 08:34

      @Highlands aerobic decoupling makes sense only if all segments are the same. If there are differences that affect pace/HR then it is broken, because the difference that you may see in the decoupling will be caused by external factors and not pace/HR.

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        Highlands @isazi
        last edited by 14 Jul 2023, 08:50

        @isazi Got it. Thanks 🙏

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          Croatoan @Highlands
          last edited by 14 Jul 2023, 10:20

          What do you guys use for biking (no power meter)
          Burner is ok but if there are no climbs, I dont know what to activate. Maybe weather but that can be mostly achived in the backgound.

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            freeheeler @Croatoan
            last edited by 14 Jul 2023, 10:54

            @Croatoan
            I use HR zones frequently

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              Egika Platinum Member @Croatoan
              last edited by 14 Jul 2023, 11:24

              @Croatoan nothing. No need to activate an S+ all the time 😉

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                Łukasz Szmigiel @isazi
                last edited by 14 Jul 2023, 11:56

                @isazi Hm, why not filter the asc/desc segments in decoupling? Wouldn’t it help in getting the app more useful?

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                  isazi Moderator @Łukasz Szmigiel
                  last edited by 14 Jul 2023, 12:00

                  @Łukasz-Szmigiel no, decoupling makes sense if the course is the same, always, there is no need to use it if you know that your course is changing continuously. Decoupling can be used to test your aerobic capacity, but tests require discipline and planning.

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                    Łukasz Szmigiel @isazi
                    last edited by 14 Jul 2023, 12:01

                    @isazi so basically that would require a treadmil or a raceway. Even changing ground or wind can skew the results.

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                      isazi Moderator @Łukasz Szmigiel
                      last edited by 14 Jul 2023, 12:06

                      @Łukasz-Szmigiel I usually do the tests (aerobic/anaerobic) doing loops in a park, always the same park, so that terrain is similar. Of course I am not the same every day, nor is the weather, but it is a good approximation. Your idea of filtering data would not work because the effect of terrain on your body would still be measured.
                      Example: your route is flat, then climbs, then descends, than is flat again. If we filter ascent and descent, in the last flat section we will still feel in the body the fatigue of the previous ascent descent, possibly have a higher HR and skewing the results.

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                        fluca Silver Members @DMytro
                        last edited by 17 Jul 2023, 12:23

                        @DMytro I tried, but no luck atm

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                          MdzOtt @isazi
                          last edited by 18 Jul 2023, 03:21

                          @isazi if we are talking about decoupling a very basic question: do you need a power meter for cycling, or the app can calculate the power (effort) based on the HR, speed, cadence(?)?

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                            isazi Moderator @MdzOtt
                            last edited by 18 Jul 2023, 08:18

                            @MdzOtt I think the app is based on pace and only works for running, but never checked.

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                              A Former User @isazi
                              last edited by 18 Jul 2023, 08:22

                              @isazi Theoretically, it’s also available for cycling (see app description), but it doesn’t work.

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                                isazi Moderator @Guest
                                last edited by 18 Jul 2023, 08:26

                                @Ilya-Sul did you try with a power meter?

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                                  A Former User @isazi
                                  last edited by 18 Jul 2023, 09:15

                                  @isazi Yes. It just displays POOR and no percentage. Doesn’t show up in the app afterwards as far as I remember.

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                                    A Former User @Guest
                                    last edited by 18 Jul 2023, 09:17

                                    @Ilya-Sul I thought it would be interesting for indoor rides, but I never got it to work and kinda forgot about it until now.

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                                      isazi Moderator @Guest
                                      last edited by 18 Jul 2023, 09:21

                                      @Ilya-Sul I can report that.

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                                        NeaLuu @Guest
                                        last edited by 24 Jul 2023, 06:58

                                        @Ilya-Sul Hi, which sport mode did you use?

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                                          A Former User @NeaLuu
                                          last edited by 24 Jul 2023, 12:33

                                          @NeaLuu Indoor Bike

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