Suunto Plus apps

[DMytro]

@Łukasz-Szmigiel that’s another thing I’d like suunto to implement actually. Some s+ apps would benefit from that imo

[Highlands]

I wonder if the fat burner app and aerobic decoupling can’t be combined into one app and changing screens. And of course, a HR gauge rainbow at the top?

[DMytro]

@Highlands a bit different functionality tho, no? E.g. I want to go hiking, I don’t care about decoupling, especially in challenging terrain, while I could (personally I don’t) care about calories.

[Highlands]

@DMytro Aerobic decoupling doesn’t work for hiking? I haven’t used it so far in hiking because I use the two slots for other apps.

[DMytro]

@Highlands technically it does, but it wouldn’t make too much sense I think? Bc when you ascend and descend, HR can be very different, speed as well. Likewise if there’s some scrambling/via ferrata - so it’s too difficult to draw any conclusions from decoupling.

[Highlands]

@DMytro Then, I think for faster hiking or trail running must be OK?

[isazi]

@Highlands aerobic decoupling makes sense only if all segments are the same. If there are differences that affect pace/HR then it is broken, because the difference that you may see in the decoupling will be caused by external factors and not pace/HR.

[Highlands]

@isazi Got it. Thanks

[Croatoan]

What do you guys use for biking (no power meter)
Burner is ok but if there are no climbs, I dont know what to activate. Maybe weather but that can be mostly achived in the backgound.

[freeheeler]

@Croatoan
I use HR zones frequently

[Egika]

@Croatoan nothing. No need to activate an S+ all the time

[Łukasz Szmigiel]

@isazi Hm, why not filter the asc/desc segments in decoupling? Wouldn’t it help in getting the app more useful?

[isazi]

@Łukasz-Szmigiel no, decoupling makes sense if the course is the same, always, there is no need to use it if you know that your course is changing continuously. Decoupling can be used to test your aerobic capacity, but tests require discipline and planning.

[Łukasz Szmigiel]

@isazi so basically that would require a treadmil or a raceway. Even changing ground or wind can skew the results.

[isazi]

@Łukasz-Szmigiel I usually do the tests (aerobic/anaerobic) doing loops in a park, always the same park, so that terrain is similar. Of course I am not the same every day, nor is the weather, but it is a good approximation. Your idea of filtering data would not work because the effect of terrain on your body would still be measured.
Example: your route is flat, then climbs, then descends, than is flat again. If we filter ascent and descent, in the last flat section we will still feel in the body the fatigue of the previous ascent descent, possibly have a higher HR and skewing the results.

[fluca]

@DMytro I tried, but no luck atm

[MdzOtt]

@isazi if we are talking about decoupling a very basic question: do you need a power meter for cycling, or the app can calculate the power (effort) based on the HR, speed, cadence(?)?

[isazi]

@MdzOtt I think the app is based on pace and only works for running, but never checked.

[A Former User]

@isazi Theoretically, it’s also available for cycling (see app description), but it doesn’t work.

[isazi]

@Ilya-Sul did you try with a power meter?