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    daveathletic Bronze Member
    last edited by 9 Nov 2024, 11:39

    Hi there, would you recommend to set HR zones according to Zonesense values?
    I have been trying to get my Zones more or less accurate but it seems they don’t fit with the Zonesense values. Any help appreciated.
    For example, Zonesense displays my aerobic threshold between 153-159 bpm max. So Zone 2 would be probably somewhere between 130-160 bpm.
    How should I setup my zones if using Zonesense values.
    Just curious if these values are good to use if you don’t want to do a LT and VO2 max test in a sports lab.
    Thanks for your help.

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      Danny poleg Silver Members
      last edited by 9 Nov 2024, 11:43

      A small recommendation
      To add to suunto Plus zonesense the current running pace so that it well be possible to maintain a pace while examining which zone I am in.
      Today while running 22 km I really wanted to know how the running pace affects the zone sense without pressing buttons
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        Egika Platinum Member @Danny poleg
        last edited by 9 Nov 2024, 12:38

        @Danny-poleg you have this already. In the S+ settings in the app, you can select which data to cycle with the top button in the ZoneSense screen.
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          Danny poleg Silver Members @Egika
          last edited by Danny poleg 11 Sept 2024, 14:30 9 Nov 2024, 14:20

          @Egika
          I checked - thanks
          While I’m on the ZONESENSE screen, pressing the top button switches between data and adjusts the color spectrum according to the zone I’m in

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            Francesco Pagano Silver Members Bronze Member @Egika
            last edited by 9 Nov 2024, 17:34

            @Egika can you actually switch through those data fields with the upper button?
            I can only see
            Pace - Hr
            Power - HR
            Ascent - Descent

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              Brad_Olwin Moderator @Francesco Pagano
              last edited by 9 Nov 2024, 17:38

              @Francesco-Pagano You can set which data fields you want in the Suunto App, then you will have the three you selected available.

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                Brad_Olwin Moderator @Danny poleg
                last edited by 9 Nov 2024, 17:40

                @Danny-poleg The top button press will not change the color spectrum or it should not.

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                  Danny poleg Silver Members @Brad_Olwin
                  last edited by 9 Nov 2024, 18:24

                  @Brad_Olwin only on iphone
                  This option does not exist on Android

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                    althaea35 Bronze Member @Danny poleg
                    last edited by 9 Nov 2024, 18:38

                    @Danny-poleg this works a described for me on Android (Galaxy s23).

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                      Danny poleg Silver Members @althaea35
                      last edited by 9 Nov 2024, 19:21

                      @althaea35 !
                      Unfortunately this is what I see in the app what am i doing wrong 1000141768.jpg

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                        Ghost @Danny poleg
                        last edited by Ghost 11 Sept 2024, 21:03 9 Nov 2024, 21:02

                        @Danny-poleg I get that screen as well when the watch isn’t connected/synced to the app. Once it’s connected, it works better.

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                          althaea35 Bronze Member @Danny poleg
                          last edited by 9 Nov 2024, 23:14

                          @Danny-poleg 🤔

                          I see this with watch connected.

                          Have tried (the old) unload reload the app?

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                            herlas Silver Members @daveathletic
                            last edited by herlas 11 Oct 2024, 03:27 10 Nov 2024, 03:24

                            @daveathletic yes, you can indeed update Z3 and Z5 low end values using aerobic and anaerobic thresholds suggested by ZS.

                            Recently in a webinar Suunto clarified that ZS is not necessarily a replacement of lab testing for lactate and ventilation tests, but at the same time, it can be used as a good enough reference, as ZS data follows the lactate thresholds done in a lab very closely. It was stated by the creators of the metric behind ZoneSense that its thresholds are within +/- 5 bpm vs lab-based lactate test.

                            Having said that, it’s up to end-users to make best judgment use of the thresholds measured by ZoneSense, as you know, these will vary between days, even during same day. A ramp test on a track or flat course is usually a good way to get a relatively good idea of your thresholds from ZS.

                            If you don’t do ramp test, another way is do targeted sessions for each one, one aerobic session where you work below, at and above what you think your aerobic threshold might be and for enough time ( 3 to 5 mins) then do a separate session for anaerobic following same approach.

                            Hope this helps.

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                              Danny poleg Silver Members
                              last edited by 10 Nov 2024, 09:43

                              @althaea35
                              @iterumtenta
                              Thanks to all the members of the group
                              There is nothing like the good old way - deleting the app, resetting the phone, installing the app and the magic works

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                                daveathletic Bronze Member @herlas
                                last edited by 10 Nov 2024, 10:32

                                @herlas thanks for your reply, that helps a lot and gives me a really good understanding. There is so much information out there according to HR zones that it can get quite challenging to find the right way to set them up without a lab test.
                                Anyway, I‘m gonna do a track test and will use Zonesense metrics to get them at least more or less accurate.
                                Thanks for your help, really appreciate.

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                                  Danny poleg Silver Members @daveathletic
                                  last edited by 10 Nov 2024, 11:11

                                  @daveathletic

                                  Nice article that sheds some light on the subject
                                  In addition, Suunto’s YouTube website has additional explanatory videos

                                  https://the5krunner.com/2024/09/18/suunto-ddfa-dynamic-heart-rate-zones-training/#google_vignette

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                                    SamuelP Bronze Member
                                    last edited by 11 Nov 2024, 19:40

                                    New lecture by suunto 😊

                                    https://youtu.be/4q6XHYcN-_A?si=Jb4aVHJbwYElpbN0

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                                      daveathletic Bronze Member @Danny poleg
                                      last edited by 11 Nov 2024, 20:10

                                      @Danny-poleg thank you, that’s super helpful.

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                                        pilleus
                                        last edited by 12 Nov 2024, 08:44

                                        Walking on a 12 % incline, running on a 4 % incline on the treadmill (10 minutes warm up, then intervals with 3 minutes running and 2 minutes walking).

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                                          jussim Bronze Member @pilleus
                                          last edited by 12 Nov 2024, 13:31

                                          I ran a Cooper test.

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                                          Could one interpret the graph that I wasn’t able to really give my best here since I didn’t really hit VO2 zone? Admittedly my taper for this wasn’t quite the way I would’ve liked so my legs weren’t the freshest.

                                          P.S. App labeled this as “recovery.” Gee, how motivating! 😂 Is it the duration of under 30 mins that makes it so since 12 mins in Z5 apparently isn’t worth anything.

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