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    S9 (2.4.14) 'Calibrate FusedTrack' interface problem. Suunto Case #01853829

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    • plopes73P Offline
      plopes73
      last edited by

      Hi,
      Reading all these posts, I just remember to ask if there is some strong magnectic field in the area, like a big train interface, high voltage electrical post,…
      I remember when I own a Suunto Spartan Trainer WHR and when I run near by an electrical train interface, the GPS and sometimes even the HR monitor went crazy, for some meters.


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      Vertical
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      • kolyany4K Offline
        kolyany4 Bronze Member
        last edited by kolyany4

        No surgery, No electric lines…

        However, I feel really extremely stupid and very sorry about what I’m going to say:

        I forgot about my gloves I love to wear in cold weather:
        images.jpg

        To be specific, I completely forgot that it contains teeny-weeny magnetic parts… [facepalm]

        NB. As an excuse I can say that those often requests for compass recalibration happened indoors as well, and cases, when north pointing arrow on compass got stuck, I get when no such gloves were around me…

        I’ll do tests today and let you know about results.

        PS. Most tricky to found bugs are almost always related to things we are most sure of.

        pps. I’m still banging my head on a wall…

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        • kolyany4K Offline
          kolyany4 Bronze Member
          last edited by

          Just finished another run with all possible magnets stripped off my clothes using Custom Mode with GPS = OK.

          Preliminary results looks very promising:
          5.03 km (from watch) vs 5.32 km (from smartphone app).
          And, most importantly (for me), start and finish points are located where they expected to be.

          from watch:
          Screenshot_20181229-103315.png

          actual track:
          Screenshot_20181229-103222.png

          I’ll keep checking results in next runs…

          I was wondering, could we avoid all this mess, caused by me, for which I’m really-really sorry, if a watch

          1. had some kind of ‘use straight line between GPS-acquired-points instead of requesting recalibration action’ option to avoid completely messed track;

          2. had some kind of magnet field detection mode which one could use to check his/her clothes/gear (sometimes rented) in order to find any emanation source that would jeopardize proper work of a watch.

          @Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos , I’m really-really sorry for all inconvenience I’ve caused, but what do you think about ideas above?

          ps. I’m still banging my head on a wall…

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          • sartoricS Offline
            sartoric Moderator
            last edited by

            At least we finally sorted the mystery out.

            😄

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            • Dimitrios KanellopoulosD Offline
              Dimitrios Kanellopoulos Community Manager
              last edited by

              by far the most interesting thread in the forum

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              • sartoricS Offline
                sartoric Moderator
                last edited by sartoric

                @kolyany4
                Out of curiosity, what’s the purpose of the mini magnet? Fastener?

                @Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos
                This thread should be forwarded to support 😄

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                • kolyany4K Offline
                  kolyany4 Bronze Member @sartoric
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                  @sartoric said in S9 (2.4.14) 'Calibrate FusedTrack' interface problem. Suunto Case #01853829:

                  @kolyany4
                  Out of curiosity, what’s the purpose of the mini magnet? Fastener?

                  It keeps “finger cover” fixed/attached to outer side of palm when cover is “opened”.
                  This cover allows my gloves to be used as mitten (in really cold weather) or glove with opened fingers.

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                  • kolyany4K Offline
                    kolyany4 Bronze Member @Dimitrios Kanellopoulos
                    last edited by kolyany4

                    @Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos said in S9 (2.4.14) 'Calibrate FusedTrack' interface problem. Suunto Case #01853829:

                    by far the most interesting thread in the forum

                    Perhaps, Suunto support should be notified about following hint:

                    one should use watch in Compass mode (after compass has been calibrated) as a detector of magnetic field or metal construction.

                    Move your watch (with active Compass) in the vicinity of your gear/clothes/whatever. If your watch instead of showing compass will ask you to ‘Calibrate compass’, then you’ve found source of your possible problems with Compass, hence jeopardized FusedTrack functionality, and messed your tracks, as a result, whenever watch will get close to that source … 😉

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                    • sartoricS Offline
                      sartoric Moderator @kolyany4
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                      @kolyany4 said in S9 (2.4.14) 'Calibrate FusedTrack' interface problem. Suunto Case #01853829:

                      @sartoric said in S9 (2.4.14) 'Calibrate FusedTrack' interface problem. Suunto Case #01853829:

                      @kolyany4
                      Out of curiosity, what’s the purpose of the mini magnet? Fastener?

                      It keeps “finger cover” fixed/attached to outer side of palm when cover is “opened”.
                      This cover allows my gloves to be used as mitten (in really cold weather) or glove with opened fingers.

                      Oh I see … That’s why I like the good ol’ buttons or velcro 😁

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                      • kolyany4K Offline
                        kolyany4 Bronze Member @sartoric
                        last edited by

                        @sartoric >

                        Oh I see … That’s why I like the good ol’ buttons or velcro 😁

                        Are you sure those buttons can pass given above hint with Compass test? 😉

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                        • Brad_OlwinB Offline
                          Brad_Olwin Moderator @kolyany4
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                          @kolyany4 I miss all of the fun when I am asleep:). I have very similar gloves but they fasten with Velcro not magnets… I am happy to hear that the problems may be solved. Magnets on many items these days are very strong and I can see how a magnet close to the watch would disrupt the compass. Good to know.

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                          • Markus FischbacherM Offline
                            Markus Fischbacher
                            last edited by Markus Fischbacher

                            Awesome topic 😎
                            Good to know, because I also wanted to buy such gloves 😉

                            S9 Baro White 2.5.18, SA (latest Beta), iPhone 6S (latest iOS)

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                            • kolyany4K Offline
                              kolyany4 Bronze Member
                              last edited by kolyany4

                              Today had another run. Results are OK (5.33 km vs 5.14 km).
                              However, another bug was found. But this one is related to “SA -> Strava” autosync:
                              https://forum.suunto.com/topic/1651/3-54-2-sa-strava-wrong-autosync-moving-time

                              from watch:
                              Screenshot_20181230-104429.png

                              from smartphone:
                              Screenshot_20181230-105319.png

                              ps. I would make screenshot images to appear smaller in my messages, if I knew how to do it using only forum tools…

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                              • Dimitrios KanellopoulosD Offline
                                Dimitrios Kanellopoulos Community Manager
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                                Track looks quite OK

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