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    Difference between Running Performance Index and est. VO2

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    • zhang965Z Offline
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      check if your alert tones are ON

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      • mario_bM Offline
        mario_b @zhang965
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        @zhang965 thx i’ll try that again.

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        • mario_bM Offline
          mario_b @zhang965
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          @zhang965 yes i did. auto lap beeps. i just deactivated the button tones. that drives me nuts.
          i’ll try with the workout. i saw a video on youtube and there was a beep.
          thx!

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          • zhang965Z Offline
            zhang965
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            I don’t care about HR while running

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              mario_b @zhang965
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              @zhang965 i do on longer uphills. (i suffer too much and get tired quickly) haven’t got the right feeling yet.

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              • zhang965Z Offline
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                I’m attacking 10KM for 40mins, but too hard

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                • mario_bM Offline
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                  Just in case anyone is asking the same here is the answer:
                  if you set a limit in the activity or in a workout on the ambit3 and you exceed that limit for more then around 1 minute then an alert is coming. before it only shows you an visual arrow back to the hr zone.

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                  • Dimitrios KanellopoulosD Offline
                    Dimitrios Kanellopoulos Community Manager
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                    I think that V02max is from first beat. Check their page I think A3 is listed for that

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                      mario_b @Dimitrios Kanellopoulos
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                      @Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos hi! thank you but nope, the running performance index on the ambit3 is the one wich calculates the VO2max with firstbeat algorithms . the estimated VO2 must be from suunto.

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                      • Dimitrios KanellopoulosD Offline
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                        @mario_b I can be wrong. But afai https://www.firstbeat.com/en/consumer-product/suunto/ambit3/

                        There is VO2max as far as I can remember that is FirstBeat. I am not sure a bout the est. Vo2. PErhaps someone else can help

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                          mario_b @Dimitrios Kanellopoulos
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                          @Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos yes kind of right. ☺ the running performance is licensed from firstbeat which is calculation the VO2max.
                          https://www.suunto.com/Support/Product-support/suunto_ambit3_peak/suunto_ambit3_peak/features/running-performance-level/
                          suunto does not call it VO2max because they say its not the Vo2max in your blood alone but also how effective your running style is.
                          for example: all my uploaded old garmin activities gets an VO2 indication but not the running performance index. estimated VO2 must be an suunto propriety value of speed and heart rate.

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                            Dimitrios Kanellopoulos Community Manager @mario_b
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                            @mario_b I believe you 😄

                            Here is the funny thing that confuses me.

                            Spartan has est VO2 -> Ok Suunto thingy
                            S5 (that is firstbeat) has also a thing called est VO2max.

                            Do you think that the difference is on est VO2max vs estVO2 ?

                            To be honest now I am more confused.

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                            • zhang965Z Offline
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                              the Vo2 in watch is firstbeat licensed

                              In SC est vo2 is not

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                                Dimitrios Kanellopoulos Community Manager @zhang965
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                                @zhang965 Indeed that can be 😄

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                                  mario_b @Dimitrios Kanellopoulos
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                                  @Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos 🤣
                                  as i understood the firstbeat metrics are not named the same by the companies using it:
                                  example: all the same
                                  firstbeat: Body resources
                                  sunnto 5: rescources
                                  Garmin: body battery

                                  firstbeat: VO2max Fitness level
                                  ambit3: running performance index
                                  Garmin (Fenix 5): VO2max
                                  suunto 5: VO2max

                                  estimated VO2 (it does not tell “max”) as i found out, is an suunto propriety form of current heart rate and pace. and can be tracked even with the phone and heart rate belt. it does not tell you the maximum oxygen your body can consume on highest level, it rater gives you an estimating of how many oxygen ml/kg/min your body currently is consuming at that second. which i think is in relation to calculating the epoc.

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                                  • zhang965Z Offline
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                                    I talked about runayyze, it has different formulas and show you different results you can compare it

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                                      mario_b @zhang965
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                                      @zhang965 thanks i keep that in mind

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                                        hold hole hold

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                                        • Dimitrios KanellopoulosD Offline
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                                          @mario_b Runanalyze is cool and we do have their guy here in the forums as well.

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                                          • Dimitrios KanellopoulosD Offline
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                                            @mario_b Thanks for the insight. Indeed it looks like it. At the point, I was using movescount (I use my app now) I had just started with sports and was not so interested in vo2 etc. Lately, I do take a peak from time to time but it has no value for me as I better listen to my self, it shows better. But hey, this is really personal opinion just to excuse me from not knowing this bit of the Suunto ecosystem. I do well understand why people want to have those metrcis and to be accurate.

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