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    Suunto 5 - tracks don't override on edits or similar names

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    • sartoricS Offline
      sartoric Moderator @Łukasz Szmigiel
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      @Łukasz-Szmigiel
      This is really weird.

      Do you sync to MC too ? Do you have routes there ?
      Have you tried to wipe App cache data ?
      Just to be sure try a watch soft reset too.

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      • zhang965Z Offline
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        @sartoric
        S5 cannot connect to MC, if i understand clearly

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          sartoric Moderator @zhang965
          last edited by sartoric

          @zhang965
          oh, right, only s9 was enabled

          so @Łukasz-Szmigiel disregard the MC comment 😄

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          • Łukasz SzmigielŁ Offline
            Łukasz Szmigiel
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            I’ll do some more testing after I return home but what I’ve observed a route is valid only when fresh. Modifying it or removing, creating a new one with the same name and syncing with watch doesn’t seem to update the route on watch - it seems as if it’s stored in watch and not removed or overwritten when edits are made. In SA everything seems to work fine (I can see all updates ok) so I assume it’s something with S5 firmware.

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              sartoric Moderator @Łukasz Szmigiel
              last edited by sartoric

              @Łukasz-Szmigiel
              Just try to disable/enable the route, to see if something changes.
              There is an issue if you sync the route as soon as you’re creating it.

              Clean the app cache too and maybe try to reinstall

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              • Łukasz SzmigielŁ Offline
                Łukasz Szmigiel
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                Disabling / enabling doesn’t help. Resyncing in between also. I haven’t tried clearing the cache.

                I’ll do some more testing next week. Right now I can only assume this behaviour by checking the overall route shape on watch (despite my today’s experience).

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                • Łukasz SzmigielŁ Offline
                  Łukasz Szmigiel
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                  Did a quick test.

                  1. Created a 3km route with name X, sent to watch
                  2. Previewed the route in watch
                  3. Unchecked the route in watch, run sync
                  4. Route persists in watch despite being set to not sent to watch
                  5. Removed the route from app
                  6. Resynced
                  7. Route persists in watch, got readded to the app with sent to watch checked
                  8. Removed the second copy of route
                  9. Synced
                  10. Route removed from watch
                  11. Created new route with the same name, synced
                  12. Previewed the route in watch, confirmed the new route got synced
                  13. Double (exact copy) route appeared in suunto app
                  14. Removed two copies from app
                  15. Synced, confirmed route got removed from watch.

                  What’s interesting is that while two identical copies appear in suunto app, there’s only one saved in watch.

                  Cleaning the app cache seems to temporarily fix the issues, however it’s rather annoying and can’t be relied upon.

                  Can anyone confirm weird route sync behavior on suunto 5?

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                  • sartoricS Offline
                    sartoric Moderator @Łukasz Szmigiel
                    last edited by sartoric

                    @Łukasz-Szmigiel
                    You can try drawing a very strange shape route using the “straight line” mode, so when you update it you can easily check if it gets updated

                    EDIT:
                    I’ve seen your last test
                    Just a note, you shouldn’t need to sync to send the route. It is sent when you “toggle” it

                    That kind of issue was related to some previous App version (don’t rememeber which one)

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                    • Łukasz SzmigielŁ Offline
                      Łukasz Szmigiel @sartoric
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                      @sartoric so this is getting even more out of hand.

                      What I did now was to draw a shape as you suggested (completely new route), named the route differently and checked it to sent to watch. Checked the watch only to see new name but… A recent route from my last post 0_o

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                        sartoric Moderator @Łukasz Szmigiel
                        last edited by sartoric

                        @Łukasz-Szmigiel
                        Ok, that’s the issue we’ve already seen in the past.

                        Have you already tried to unistall/reinstall ?
                        App data needs to be wiped off, to fix that issue.

                        Or maybe the issue is back for new Android version.
                        Let’s invoke @Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos 😄

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                        • Łukasz SzmigielŁ Offline
                          Łukasz Szmigiel @sartoric
                          last edited by

                          @sartoric I’ve tried reinstalling last month during temporal problems with strava sync.

                          Perhaps data should be cleaned whenever a new version is being installed?

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                            sartoric Moderator @Łukasz Szmigiel
                            last edited by sartoric

                            @Łukasz-Szmigiel
                            Usually not, but give it a try

                            Oh, try unpair / pair too, from app, phone and watch too

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                            • Łukasz SzmigielŁ Offline
                              Łukasz Szmigiel @sartoric
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                              @sartoric hm it seems that cleaning app data and setting it up again fixed the issue - for now. Thanks for the info!

                              I wouldn’t mind doing it every new version (either app or android) if it wasn’t for long first sync due to all activities saved in diary being resynced first time after data reset.

                              BTW how many activities are stored in watch? Is there any self cleaning mechanism before the watch runs out of memory?

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                                sartoric Moderator @Łukasz Szmigiel
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                                @Łukasz-Szmigiel said in Suunto 5 - tracks don't override on edits or similar names:

                                BTW how many activities are stored in watch? Is there any self cleaning mechanism before the watch runs out of memory?

                                I don’t remember how many, but the first in, will be the first out
                                Full activity logs are cleaned after a FW update and only summary kept.

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                                • Dimitrios KanellopoulosD Offline
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                                  There is an issue with route duplication on current Android release. So that for sure is fixed on 4.11.x that should come to you in the next week(s)

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                                  • Saketo NemoS Offline
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                                    it seems to me that there is no precise number. Not 30, not 100. It simply depends on the watch storage capacity: the longer and more complex a move (gps data, hr, etc …), the more obviously it will take up memory space.
                                    Here, those who record only indoor workouts, no cardio, will probably record hundreds and hundreds.
                                    If instead you do running workouts from 5 hours at a time, they will be a few dozen.

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                                    • Łukasz SzmigielŁ Offline
                                      Łukasz Szmigiel
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                                      This issue was fixed with incremental update. I believe it can be closed then.

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                                        just adding tags for now

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                                          @sartoric said in Suunto 5 - tracks don't override on edits or similar names:

                                          just adding tags for now

                                          Give modo powoa to @sartoric and he will put tags everywhere 🙂
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