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    Suunto 5 - tracks don't override on edits or similar names

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    • sartoricS Offline
      sartoric Moderator @Łukasz Szmigiel
      last edited by sartoric

      @Łukasz-Szmigiel
      Ok, that’s the issue we’ve already seen in the past.

      Have you already tried to unistall/reinstall ?
      App data needs to be wiped off, to fix that issue.

      Or maybe the issue is back for new Android version.
      Let’s invoke @Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos 😄

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      • Łukasz SzmigielŁ Offline
        Łukasz Szmigiel @sartoric
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        @sartoric I’ve tried reinstalling last month during temporal problems with strava sync.

        Perhaps data should be cleaned whenever a new version is being installed?

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        • sartoricS Offline
          sartoric Moderator @Łukasz Szmigiel
          last edited by sartoric

          @Łukasz-Szmigiel
          Usually not, but give it a try

          Oh, try unpair / pair too, from app, phone and watch too

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          • Łukasz SzmigielŁ Offline
            Łukasz Szmigiel @sartoric
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            @sartoric hm it seems that cleaning app data and setting it up again fixed the issue - for now. Thanks for the info!

            I wouldn’t mind doing it every new version (either app or android) if it wasn’t for long first sync due to all activities saved in diary being resynced first time after data reset.

            BTW how many activities are stored in watch? Is there any self cleaning mechanism before the watch runs out of memory?

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            • sartoricS Offline
              sartoric Moderator @Łukasz Szmigiel
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              @Łukasz-Szmigiel said in Suunto 5 - tracks don't override on edits or similar names:

              BTW how many activities are stored in watch? Is there any self cleaning mechanism before the watch runs out of memory?

              I don’t remember how many, but the first in, will be the first out
              Full activity logs are cleaned after a FW update and only summary kept.

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              • Dimitrios KanellopoulosD Offline
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                There is an issue with route duplication on current Android release. So that for sure is fixed on 4.11.x that should come to you in the next week(s)

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                • Saketo NemoS Offline
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                  it seems to me that there is no precise number. Not 30, not 100. It simply depends on the watch storage capacity: the longer and more complex a move (gps data, hr, etc …), the more obviously it will take up memory space.
                  Here, those who record only indoor workouts, no cardio, will probably record hundreds and hundreds.
                  If instead you do running workouts from 5 hours at a time, they will be a few dozen.

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                  • Łukasz SzmigielŁ Offline
                    Łukasz Szmigiel
                    last edited by

                    This issue was fixed with incremental update. I believe it can be closed then.

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                    • sartoricS Offline
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                      just adding tags for now

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                        @sartoric said in Suunto 5 - tracks don't override on edits or similar names:

                        just adding tags for now

                        Give modo powoa to @sartoric and he will put tags everywhere 🙂
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                          @Mff73
                          and tagginator 😄

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                          • Łukasz SzmigielŁ Offline
                            Łukasz Szmigiel
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                            Unfortunately I had the same issue again - this time with trying to import GPX (from Strava) and save a track based on it.

                            It syncs with watch instantly and it seems that the metadata is being correctly displayed (ie. elevation, name or total distance) but track thumbnail is from a recently deleted track that is either in SA’s cache or remaining in the watch memory. Since the track that was erroneously displayed was close to my home, I went to investigate and it wasn’t just the thumbnail - the watch was in fact loading older track.

                            This may lead to unpleasant surprise on a race day.

                            I’ve tried resetting all SA data (relogin, resync with watch, etc.) but it didn’t fix the issue. What fixed the problem was:

                            1. Remove the track that failed to synchronize.
                            2. Create a throwaway track and synchronize it with the watch.
                            3. Confirm that a right track was synchronized by looking at track thumbnail in the watch navigation screen.
                            4. If the right track was synchronized - create and synchronize the final track.
                            5. If the problem persists, repeat step 2 and 3 until track thumbnail on watch matches track shape in SA.

                            The steps above suggest that it’s some kind of cache issue but it’s hard for me to track it - if it’s watch or SA related. Or perhaps the bug is being triggered by saving track to SA without watch connection, etc.

                            Once you know that you have to check the track shape in watch and compare it with SA it’s not a big deal but imagine that you’ve made some tweaks to an old track and they are so small that you can’t see it immediately on small screen and the watch is going to guide you through an old track.

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                            • sartoricS Offline
                              sartoric Moderator @Łukasz Szmigiel
                              last edited by sartoric

                              @Łukasz-Szmigiel
                              As @Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos said, there was a similar issue in the past (probably I reported it) with duplicate routes and strange data mix.
                              But it was, as far as I remember v3.something.
                              I use routes very much, and I’ve never faced that issue again.

                              Did you already try to uninstall and reinstall the last app version ?
                              @Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos Maybe it could be related to Android10 or Pixel XL ?

                              Edit
                              Found this :https://forum.suunto.com/topic/2174/android-3-64-0-generic-comment/54
                              but there was even an older similar one

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                              • Łukasz SzmigielŁ Offline
                                Łukasz Szmigiel @sartoric
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                                @sartoric I didn’t reinstall the app but cleared all the data (ie. cache + data) which essentially resets it. Also, I’m on latest betas.

                                It’s the first time I’ve stumbled upon this error after last time I was reporting it (September last year I think) so I thought it got fixed.

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                                • sartoricS Offline
                                  sartoric Moderator @Łukasz Szmigiel
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                                  @Łukasz-Szmigiel
                                  Just for testing purpose, can you try to reinstall it ? Just to avoid that for some unexplicable reason, Android do cache something

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                                  • Łukasz SzmigielŁ Offline
                                    Łukasz Szmigiel @sartoric
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                                    @sartoric I’ll do it next time the bug occurs as it seems to be fine after I finally got the GPX based track on watch.

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                                    • Dimitrios KanellopoulosD Offline
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                                      I have reported this, for me it happens if there is only one route. Ca n you verify this. ?

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                                      • Łukasz SzmigielŁ Offline
                                        Łukasz Szmigiel @Dimitrios Kanellopoulos
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                                        @Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos I have several routes in SA, around half of them synchronized with the watch. There were 3 routes in watch memory when the bug occurred this time.

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