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    Pros/Cons of Suunto 9 BARO * ONLY * be fair and polite!

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      johann.fuehrer Bronze Member @zhang965
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      @zhang965 said in Pros/Cons of Suunto 9 BARO * ONLY * be fair and polite!:

      I agree with you about you the ohr on s9 is a totally joke but it’s just an option

      … but built in and charged … and part of this special model which we are talking…

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        pilleus @zhang965
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        @zhang965 said in Pros/Cons of Suunto 9 BARO * ONLY * be fair and polite!:

        But your xiaomi has no gps nor baro ?

        This is not the point. A 500 Euro watch should be able to read the heart rate on the wrist as it is possible with a cheap fitness tracker.

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          zhang965
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          What’s the point? They even don’t put firstbeat features on s9 which is. 500euros watch , s3 5 have these features!

          They don’t care

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            freeheeler @zhang965
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            @zhang965 said in Pros/Cons of Suunto 9 BARO * ONLY * be fair and polite!:

            ohr on s9 is a totally joke but it’s just an option

            I would use ohr as an option only and would rely on the chest strap at first… at least until ohr convinced me that it is better… but with gloves skiing, I can imagine ohr meets its limits…

            living sideways

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              freeheeler @zhang965
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              @zhang965 said in Pros/Cons of Suunto 9 BARO * ONLY * be fair and polite!:

              They don’t care

              they want you to buy the entire s-line

              living sideways

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                johann.fuehrer Bronze Member @zhang965
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                @zhang965 said in Pros/Cons of Suunto 9 BARO * ONLY * be fair and polite!:

                What’s the point? They even don’t put firstbeat features on s9 which is. 500euros watch , s3 5 have these features!

                They don’t care

                Why do “they” not care, when did “they” promise such?

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                • zhang965Z Offline
                  zhang965
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                  So why ohr is a con?

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                    freeheeler @zhang965
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                    @zhang965
                    because it works not as well as chest strap? …it’s not really a con… it’s just like the backup camera in the car that only works every now and then

                    living sideways

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                      zhang965
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                      The first time(s) when I use my s9, I was shocking,

                      The gps was horrible
                      The ohr was horrible,

                      But I’m getting more and more comfortable with it now,
                      bob ross said There are no mistakes, just happy accidents.

                      The gps accuracy gives me a lot of surprises that I begin to enjoy it.

                      Ohr never mind, I’ll never use it.

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                        freeheeler @zhang965
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                        @zhang965
                        do you get used to it because human gets used to everything or do you learn how to “read” it?

                        living sideways

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                          johann.fuehrer Bronze Member @zhang965
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                          @zhang965 said in Pros/Cons of Suunto 9 BARO * ONLY * be fair and polite!:

                          So why ohr is a con?

                          • con: WHR, what for? If I need reliable HR than I NEED a strap, if not - then I don’t need to know my HR anyhow, especially if I’m training by power zones.

                          What is a HR shown good for, if it’s wrong (not completely, but if you are wrong +/-5 HR beats near LTHR, it MAKES a difference), too late (interval training, >5secs) or not working at all (swimming) and absolutely unusable for HIIT based on HR (response too much lag)

                          For (more or less) steady pace runs, to have some indications where on your personal the HR scale you are: OK, this works.

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                            johann.fuehrer Bronze Member @zhang965
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                            @zhang965 said in Pros/Cons of Suunto 9 BARO * ONLY * be fair and polite!:

                            bob ross said There are no mistakes, just happy LITTLE accidents.

                            🙂 nice that am not the only one who watched him 🙂

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                              zhang965
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                              I do understand your con point, if you speak French, you will also understand your con’s meaning

                              Btw
                              The algorithms for Ohr and chest are different,

                              Chest belt can calculate the hr based on actual RR interval

                              But ohr has to get an average from a period it’s why we say ohr needs wear it for some minutes before beginning sport

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                                johann.fuehrer Bronze Member @johann.fuehrer
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                                @johann-fuehrer said in Pros/Cons of Suunto 9 BARO * ONLY * be fair and polite!:

                                @zhang965 said in Pros/Cons of Suunto 9 BARO * ONLY * be fair and polite!:

                                bob ross said There are no mistakes, just happy LITTLE accidents.

                                🙂 nice that am not the only one who watched him 🙂

                                @zhang965

                                You have been right: "“We don’t make mistakes – we just have happy accidents.”

                                Mixed up quotes of B.R.

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                                  When I begin using S9, my PB of 10k has changed a lot , 45m (a3p and ssu ) to 38m (s9)
                                  You know I’m the guy only run once 10k a week at Sunday morning .

                                  I thought it because I 'm running quicker, but it actually s9’s gps running quicker than me…

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                                    zhang965
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                                    I had some really really bad time with s9, but now it doesn’t matter anymore:
                                    s9 is still being developed, s9 is still young, suunto has still time to finish it, new firmware is on the way, unless ssu, three years later of his release, one year in outlet, it still looks like an unfinished watch

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                                      freeheeler @zhang965
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                                      @zhang965
                                      I’m still not convinced if it’s a good or bad plan to throw a product on the market in test stage and use customers over 3 years time to improve it…
                                      or do it like others: secretly test and improve until perfection and then surprise and overwhelm the customers with a big bang

                                      living sideways

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                                        johann.fuehrer Bronze Member @freeheeler
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                                        @TELE-HO said in Pros/Cons of Suunto 9 BARO * ONLY * be fair and polite!:

                                        @zhang965
                                        I’m still not convinced if it’s a good or bad plan to throw a product on the market in test stage and use customers over 3 years time to improve it…

                                        Microsoft was doing well with that approach, like IBM, Apple, Google (Android), … and the difference to Suunto is: their (Suunto’s) software usually do NOT crash! But customer feedback is somewhere different than what you cannot get in an “sterile” test environment. The “wild” is always different. And the the test base of Microsoft and Suunto might be slightly different in size…

                                        That’s the reason, garmin drops out each beta in the wild, and let customers to the hard work (“but we’ve told you: it BETA!!, sorry for your data…”)

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                                          Saketo Nemo Moderator @johann.fuehrer
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                                          @johann-fuehrer

                                          up to 7 fields per screen, and it’s really handy when you don’t want to play too much with buttons, like when u r riding. possibility to activate energy saving profiles or change the GPS accuracy (or turn it off) during the activity. set repeated directly from the clock. set autolap from the start screen (if I am not mistaken, on ambit, it had to be entered first).
                                          And…i’ll think this night, time to sleep 🤭

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                                            Brad_Olwin Moderator
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                                            I agree with the oHR feature, it is a problem. Perhaps the watch weight is an issue. I can wear mine where I do not want to partway up my arm and get good oHR. You missed some pro FusedTrack and absolutely amazing battery life, something my Ambits did not have.

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