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    Likarnik Bronze Member @fluca
    last edited by Likarnik 14 Jul 2023, 07:53

    @fluca that would be awesome, but how would you implement this? AFAIK on bike computer you can have normal screen and just a line with vehicles on side. S+ only to connect, but I would like to see my normal data on screen, not just who is behind me… not sure how to deal with this. If you ride on busy road, normal alert like zones/navigation would be too much as you would barely see hr/power/speed etc. because of bryton/s+ alerts. I’ll buy radar light first day that this works 🙂

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      DMytro @fluca
      last edited by 14 Jul 2023, 07:58

      @fluca sounds quite cool actually, maybe you could contact the manufacturer and ask if they’re interested? I think they have to request the toolkit from suunto and then work on an app together.

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        Łukasz Szmigiel @DMytro
        last edited by 14 Jul 2023, 08:00

        @DMytro I wonder if it’s possible for S+ app to steal the focus if it’s not currently displayed? If not, only vibration and / or sound would be possible.

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          DMytro @Łukasz Szmigiel
          last edited by 14 Jul 2023, 08:01

          @Łukasz-Szmigiel that’s another thing I’d like suunto to implement actually. Some s+ apps would benefit from that imo

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            Highlands
            last edited by 14 Jul 2023, 08:08

            I wonder if the fat burner app and aerobic decoupling can’t be combined into one app and changing screens. And of course, a HR gauge rainbow at the top?

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              DMytro @Highlands
              last edited by 14 Jul 2023, 08:09

              @Highlands a bit different functionality tho, no? E.g. I want to go hiking, I don’t care about decoupling, especially in challenging terrain, while I could (personally I don’t) care about calories.

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                Highlands @DMytro
                last edited by 14 Jul 2023, 08:13

                @DMytro Aerobic decoupling doesn’t work for hiking? I haven’t used it so far in hiking because I use the two slots for other apps.

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                  DMytro @Highlands
                  last edited by 14 Jul 2023, 08:25

                  @Highlands technically it does, but it wouldn’t make too much sense I think? Bc when you ascend and descend, HR can be very different, speed as well. Likewise if there’s some scrambling/via ferrata - so it’s too difficult to draw any conclusions from decoupling.

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                    Highlands @DMytro
                    last edited by 14 Jul 2023, 08:32

                    @DMytro Then, I think for faster hiking or trail running must be OK?

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                      isazi Moderator @Highlands
                      last edited by 14 Jul 2023, 08:34

                      @Highlands aerobic decoupling makes sense only if all segments are the same. If there are differences that affect pace/HR then it is broken, because the difference that you may see in the decoupling will be caused by external factors and not pace/HR.

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                        Highlands @isazi
                        last edited by 14 Jul 2023, 08:50

                        @isazi Got it. Thanks 🙏

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                          Croatoan @Highlands
                          last edited by 14 Jul 2023, 10:20

                          What do you guys use for biking (no power meter)
                          Burner is ok but if there are no climbs, I dont know what to activate. Maybe weather but that can be mostly achived in the backgound.

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                            freeheeler @Croatoan
                            last edited by 14 Jul 2023, 10:54

                            @Croatoan
                            I use HR zones frequently

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                              Egika Platinum Member @Croatoan
                              last edited by 14 Jul 2023, 11:24

                              @Croatoan nothing. No need to activate an S+ all the time 😉

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                                Łukasz Szmigiel @isazi
                                last edited by 14 Jul 2023, 11:56

                                @isazi Hm, why not filter the asc/desc segments in decoupling? Wouldn’t it help in getting the app more useful?

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                                  isazi Moderator @Łukasz Szmigiel
                                  last edited by 14 Jul 2023, 12:00

                                  @Łukasz-Szmigiel no, decoupling makes sense if the course is the same, always, there is no need to use it if you know that your course is changing continuously. Decoupling can be used to test your aerobic capacity, but tests require discipline and planning.

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                                    Łukasz Szmigiel @isazi
                                    last edited by 14 Jul 2023, 12:01

                                    @isazi so basically that would require a treadmil or a raceway. Even changing ground or wind can skew the results.

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                                      isazi Moderator @Łukasz Szmigiel
                                      last edited by 14 Jul 2023, 12:06

                                      @Łukasz-Szmigiel I usually do the tests (aerobic/anaerobic) doing loops in a park, always the same park, so that terrain is similar. Of course I am not the same every day, nor is the weather, but it is a good approximation. Your idea of filtering data would not work because the effect of terrain on your body would still be measured.
                                      Example: your route is flat, then climbs, then descends, than is flat again. If we filter ascent and descent, in the last flat section we will still feel in the body the fatigue of the previous ascent descent, possibly have a higher HR and skewing the results.

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                                        fluca Silver Members @DMytro
                                        last edited by 17 Jul 2023, 12:23

                                        @DMytro I tried, but no luck atm

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                                          MdzOtt @isazi
                                          last edited by 18 Jul 2023, 03:21

                                          @isazi if we are talking about decoupling a very basic question: do you need a power meter for cycling, or the app can calculate the power (effort) based on the HR, speed, cadence(?)?

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