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    Tieutieu Platinum Member
    last edited by Tieutieu 6 Apr 2023, 20:33 4 Jun 2023, 20:24

    Since I received my vertical, maps where at beginning working pretty well.
    Since then, I have had more and more maps areas that where not displayed.
    Around my place there where first just ok, few days ago certain areas and scales where not visible anymore, and tonight nothing was displayed.
    I m not very worried (Also because I don’t need maps those days), but I’d like it to work again properly. I’ve tried soft reset but no results.
    I’ve tried to stop watch like proposed by @Enrique-0 and it’s seems ok now.
    What leads me to that point : is it like a sort of « cache memory saturation » that could happen when too much maps have used ?(don’t know how to say that properly)

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      Enrique 0 @Tieutieu
      last edited by 11 Jun 2023, 15:30

      @Tieutieu for information, map problem happened again for me today during a bike training 😲 I was not happy at all because I bought Vertical watch for 2 reasons : autonomy and maps ! (and this is not my first Suunto). Then I didn’t want to restart my watch during the bike session, so I decided not to display the map, an later during the session the bike session stopped alone on the watch ! (I specify that the watch is attached to the handlebars and I touched nothing !!!) I was quite disappointed, so my bike session was recorded in two different parts 😞
      All for my point of view this sounds like a bug…
      I wonder if I shoudn’t restart my watch before each sport sessions using GPS where I could need map displaying…

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        zhang965 @Enrique 0
        last edited by 12 Jun 2023, 09:40

        @Enrique-0 said in No-Map-Problem:

        Tieutieu for information, map problem happened again for me today during a bike training 😲 I was not happy at all because I bought Vertical watch for 2 reasons : autonomy and maps ! (and this is not my first Suunto). Then I didn’t want to restart my watch during the bike session, so I decided not to display the map, an later during the session the bike session stopped alone on the watch ! (I specify that the watch is attached to the handlebars and I touched nothing !!!) I was quite disappointed, so my bike session was recorded in two different parts 😞
        All for my point of view this sounds like a bug…
        I wonder if I shoudn’t restart my watch before each sport sessions using GPS where I could need map displaying…

        The map feature is NOT ok.

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          Tieutieu Platinum Member @zhang965
          last edited by Tieutieu 6 Dec 2023, 09:44 12 Jun 2023, 09:41

          @zhang965 said in No-Map-Problem:

          @Enrique-0 said in No-Map-Problem:

          Tieutieu for information, map problem happened again for me today during a bike training 😲 I was not happy at all because I bought Vertical watch for 2 reasons : autonomy and maps ! (and this is not my first Suunto). Then I didn’t want to restart my watch during the bike session, so I decided not to display the map, an later during the session the bike session stopped alone on the watch ! (I specify that the watch is attached to the handlebars and I touched nothing !!!) I was quite disappointed, so my bike session was recorded in two different parts 😞
          All for my point of view this sounds like a bug…
          I wonder if I shoudn’t restart my watch before each sport sessions using GPS where I could need map displaying…

          The map feature is NOT ok.

          Since I stopped/restarted the watch once, I didn’t had any issue with maps, works fine.
          for sure this issue as to be fixed asap.

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            Jan Krejčí
            last edited by 16 Jun 2023, 08:02

            Tips for everybody: What I do now is I restart watch every time after I’ve synced new routes into the watch. Since doing this, I’ve got no problems at all with bad rendering (black screen with white grid). Also, after the restart I have to calibrate the compass/maps. Better to do it immediately, otherwise you need to dismount from bike handlebar and do it anyways.

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              taziden Gold Members @Jan Krejčí
              last edited by 16 Jun 2023, 08:07

              @Jan-Krejčí new routes or new maps?

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                Tieutieu Platinum Member @Jan Krejčí
                last edited by Tieutieu 16 Jun 2023, 08:08

                @Jan-Krejčí said in No-Map-Problem:

                Tips for everybody: What I do now is I restart watch every time after I’ve synced new routes into the watch. Since doing this, I’ve got no problems at all with bad rendering (black screen with white grid). Also, after the restart I have to calibrate the compass/maps. Better to do it immediately, otherwise you need to dismount from bike handlebar and do it anyways.

                Ohhh that’s a nice catch about comportment that could lead to the no map pb. I just added a new route into the watch (I had no problems with maps for a while)…I just checked after your message and I have a few black squares back ! Will stop and start it (had done it once and it solved). Thanks !
                [Edit] => stop/restart. show map, calibrate compass => black squars gone away. took 1min, but hope it will solved with the hot fix to come.

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                  Jan Krejčí @taziden
                  last edited by 16 Jun 2023, 08:10

                  @taziden Routes. It is strange but first route on a new map was no problem. Second time though - new route on the same map - I got the rendering problem

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                    mikekoski490 Bronze Member
                    last edited by mikekoski490 24 Jun 2023, 22:47

                    I’m starting to get this issue after hotfix. About 25% of my workouts get the grid with no map. Anyone else?

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                    Past Suuntos: X-Lander/Observer/T6/X9/X10/X6HR/CORES/Ambits/Spartan/9P/9PP Ti/Vertical Ti

                    Current: Suunto Race Ti

                    Past other GPS watches: Polar Vantage V; Garmin 6X Pro Solar; Coros Vertix 2

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                      sartoric Moderator @mikekoski490
                      last edited by 25 Jun 2023, 07:05

                      @mikekoski490
                      did you reload the map ?

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                        mikekoski490 Bronze Member @sartoric
                        last edited by 25 Jun 2023, 12:51

                        @sartoric Yes. I did a complete reset and reloaded 2 maps. Took 4.5 hours. The maps show up sometimes / sometimes not.

                        Past Suuntos: X-Lander/Observer/T6/X9/X10/X6HR/CORES/Ambits/Spartan/9P/9PP Ti/Vertical Ti

                        Current: Suunto Race Ti

                        Past other GPS watches: Polar Vantage V; Garmin 6X Pro Solar; Coros Vertix 2

                        Suunto App running on Google Pixel 8/Android 14

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                          Sascha Domres Bronze Member @Racoon6
                          last edited by 1 Jul 2023, 15:01

                          @Racoon6 made a trip to cologne today. My watch didn’t show a map although I downloaded the whole of Germany… Soft reset didn’t work… the map works 150 km away in my home town of Hesse… The vertical is really unreliable

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                            sartoric Moderator @Sascha Domres
                            last edited by 1 Jul 2023, 15:04

                            @Sascha-Domres
                            did you get a GPS fix ?

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                              Sascha Domres Bronze Member @sartoric
                              last edited by 1 Jul 2023, 17:51

                              @sartoric yes, there were no problems with the recording… I restarted the clock twice… unfortunately no map to be seen…

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                              • Pablo Bretón GarcíaP Offline
                                Pablo Bretón García
                                last edited by 4 Jul 2023, 14:16

                                me the same after the last hotfix. I did a softreset and redownloaded the maps but I can not see the maps

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                                  mikekoski490 Bronze Member
                                  last edited by 5 Jul 2023, 21:51

                                  Still no maps for me. Went on a bikepacking trip and did not get any maps for the days away, and just went on a 2 hour local ride from my house and did not get maps again - just the black screen with the grid.

                                  Past Suuntos: X-Lander/Observer/T6/X9/X10/X6HR/CORES/Ambits/Spartan/9P/9PP Ti/Vertical Ti

                                  Current: Suunto Race Ti

                                  Past other GPS watches: Polar Vantage V; Garmin 6X Pro Solar; Coros Vertix 2

                                  Suunto App running on Google Pixel 8/Android 14

                                  freeheelerF 1 Reply Last reply 5 Jul 2023, 22:09 Reply Quote 0
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                                    freeheeler @mikekoski490
                                    last edited by 5 Jul 2023, 22:09

                                    @mikekoski490
                                    did you try a soft reset?
                                    if so and it didn’t help, please send logs and pm account name and time logs sent

                                    living sideways

                                    M 1 Reply Last reply 6 Jul 2023, 02:46 Reply Quote 0
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                                      mikekoski490 Bronze Member @freeheeler
                                      last edited by 6 Jul 2023, 02:46

                                      @freeheeler Ya. 2 soft resets. One big reset and re downloading of all my maps. They work for a bit, or not. I’ll wait for some kind of firmware update.

                                      Past Suuntos: X-Lander/Observer/T6/X9/X10/X6HR/CORES/Ambits/Spartan/9P/9PP Ti/Vertical Ti

                                      Current: Suunto Race Ti

                                      Past other GPS watches: Polar Vantage V; Garmin 6X Pro Solar; Coros Vertix 2

                                      Suunto App running on Google Pixel 8/Android 14

                                      freeheelerF 1 Reply Last reply 6 Jul 2023, 05:10 Reply Quote 0
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                                        freeheeler @mikekoski490
                                        last edited by 6 Jul 2023, 05:10

                                        @mikekoski490
                                        sorry to hear that it didn’t help. in order to improve it, the developers need:

                                        • Issue description
                                        • Location coordinates
                                        • Device Logs sent (incl date and time)
                                        • SA email used for maps
                                        • What adjacent maps are installed

                                        please pm me once you observe this issue again.

                                        living sideways

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                                          Jan Krejčí @mikekoski490
                                          last edited by 7 Jul 2023, 20:17

                                          @mikekoski490 Same here. Unfortunately the soft reset hack stopped working for me as well. Even though I restart my watch after every route update, I get black tiles again

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