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  • M Offline
    mikekoski490 Bronze Member
    last edited by mikekoski490 24 Jun 2023, 22:47

    I’m starting to get this issue after hotfix. About 25% of my workouts get the grid with no map. Anyone else?

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    Past Suuntos: X-Lander/Observer/T6/X9/X10/X6HR/CORES/Ambits/Spartan/9P/9PP Ti/Vertical Ti

    Current: Suunto Race Ti

    Past other GPS watches: Polar Vantage V; Garmin 6X Pro Solar; Coros Vertix 2

    Suunto App running on Google Pixel 8/Android 14

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      sartoric Moderator @mikekoski490
      last edited by 25 Jun 2023, 07:05

      @mikekoski490
      did you reload the map ?

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        mikekoski490 Bronze Member @sartoric
        last edited by 25 Jun 2023, 12:51

        @sartoric Yes. I did a complete reset and reloaded 2 maps. Took 4.5 hours. The maps show up sometimes / sometimes not.

        Past Suuntos: X-Lander/Observer/T6/X9/X10/X6HR/CORES/Ambits/Spartan/9P/9PP Ti/Vertical Ti

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        Past other GPS watches: Polar Vantage V; Garmin 6X Pro Solar; Coros Vertix 2

        Suunto App running on Google Pixel 8/Android 14

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          Sascha Domres Bronze Member @Racoon6
          last edited by 1 Jul 2023, 15:01

          @Racoon6 made a trip to cologne today. My watch didn’t show a map although I downloaded the whole of Germany… Soft reset didn’t work… the map works 150 km away in my home town of Hesse… The vertical is really unreliable

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            sartoric Moderator @Sascha Domres
            last edited by 1 Jul 2023, 15:04

            @Sascha-Domres
            did you get a GPS fix ?

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              Sascha Domres Bronze Member @sartoric
              last edited by 1 Jul 2023, 17:51

              @sartoric yes, there were no problems with the recording… I restarted the clock twice… unfortunately no map to be seen…

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                Pablo Bretón García
                last edited by 4 Jul 2023, 14:16

                me the same after the last hotfix. I did a softreset and redownloaded the maps but I can not see the maps

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                  mikekoski490 Bronze Member
                  last edited by 5 Jul 2023, 21:51

                  Still no maps for me. Went on a bikepacking trip and did not get any maps for the days away, and just went on a 2 hour local ride from my house and did not get maps again - just the black screen with the grid.

                  Past Suuntos: X-Lander/Observer/T6/X9/X10/X6HR/CORES/Ambits/Spartan/9P/9PP Ti/Vertical Ti

                  Current: Suunto Race Ti

                  Past other GPS watches: Polar Vantage V; Garmin 6X Pro Solar; Coros Vertix 2

                  Suunto App running on Google Pixel 8/Android 14

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                    freeheeler @mikekoski490
                    last edited by 5 Jul 2023, 22:09

                    @mikekoski490
                    did you try a soft reset?
                    if so and it didn’t help, please send logs and pm account name and time logs sent

                    living sideways

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                      mikekoski490 Bronze Member @freeheeler
                      last edited by 6 Jul 2023, 02:46

                      @freeheeler Ya. 2 soft resets. One big reset and re downloading of all my maps. They work for a bit, or not. I’ll wait for some kind of firmware update.

                      Past Suuntos: X-Lander/Observer/T6/X9/X10/X6HR/CORES/Ambits/Spartan/9P/9PP Ti/Vertical Ti

                      Current: Suunto Race Ti

                      Past other GPS watches: Polar Vantage V; Garmin 6X Pro Solar; Coros Vertix 2

                      Suunto App running on Google Pixel 8/Android 14

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                        freeheeler @mikekoski490
                        last edited by 6 Jul 2023, 05:10

                        @mikekoski490
                        sorry to hear that it didn’t help. in order to improve it, the developers need:

                        • Issue description
                        • Location coordinates
                        • Device Logs sent (incl date and time)
                        • SA email used for maps
                        • What adjacent maps are installed

                        please pm me once you observe this issue again.

                        living sideways

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                          Jan Krejčí @mikekoski490
                          last edited by 7 Jul 2023, 20:17

                          @mikekoski490 Same here. Unfortunately the soft reset hack stopped working for me as well. Even though I restart my watch after every route update, I get black tiles again

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                            colinmacdon Bronze Member
                            last edited by 8 Jul 2023, 21:19

                            Downloaded 2 maps (not adjacent), updated firmware. Soft reset, maps worked for a few runs, then failed for two bike rides. Nothing but black tiles, various zoom levels. Logs sent. Who should I message further details to?

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                              zhang965 @colinmacdon
                              last edited by 9 Jul 2023, 11:31

                              @colinmacdon said in No-Map-Problem:

                              Downloaded 2 maps (not adjacent), updated firmware. Soft reset, maps worked for a few runs, then failed for two bike rides. Nothing but black tiles, various zoom levels. Logs sent. Who should I message further details to?

                              How could it be, our great tester said no issue happened on his watch, you are must lieing

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                                Brad_Olwin Moderator @zhang965
                                last edited by 9 Jul 2023, 11:45

                                @zhang965 I did not say no issues happened. I did say on the current firmware that I have not had crashes or map issues. That’s all. Hope I clarified what I stated for you.

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                                  colinmacdon Bronze Member
                                  last edited by 10 Jul 2023, 16:03

                                  Deleted map for my region, re-downloaded, reset, still black tiles. As some have touched on, are there “early” units out there suffering from hardware issues? Also, I have had to calibrate the compass every single day–I thought this was fixed with latest firmware?

                                  What is the next course of action, return to place of sale, initiate a warranty claim? The store I purchased from only has a 30 day window of returns.

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                                    sartoric Moderator @colinmacdon
                                    last edited by 10 Jul 2023, 16:19

                                    @colinmacdon said in No-Map-Problem:

                                    What is the next course of action, return to place of sale, initiate a warranty claim? The store I purchased from only has a 30 day window of returns.

                                    Contact Suunto support or return it to the seller.
                                    It’s basically a personal choice

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                                      Jugger
                                      last edited by 10 Jul 2023, 17:07

                                      I also had black map problem just 25km away from my home. It was still same region. When I got back it was still black. Reset did help me and after that it worked almost 500km away with no problem. Haven’t happened since.
                                      Compass seems to be very sensitive to magnets. I just tried with my phonecase. One close swipe over watch causes need for calibration. I wouldn’t worry about it so much.

                                      Suunto Vertical Titanium Forest

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                                        freeheeler @colinmacdon
                                        last edited by freeheeler 7 Oct 2023, 17:51 10 Jul 2023, 17:50

                                        @colinmacdon
                                        I support what @Jugger says with the sensitivity for magnets. it’s generally the case for my watches… helmet or backpack locks un-calibrate it very easily.

                                        regarding the maps, (in general) this is unlikely related to hardware. I have noticed myself some regions that didn’t work. it’s very difficult to check in advance what regions are affected. often new start of the watch helps. if it doesn’t, we need logs, account details, adjacent map (if applicable) and the area that’s having issues. I’m sure it’s not the entire map that’s affected

                                        living sideways

                                        C 1 Reply Last reply 11 Jul 2023, 14:13 Reply Quote 0
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                                          Freezer Bronze Member @Jugger
                                          last edited by 11 Jul 2023, 08:43

                                          @isazi @Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos I have also begun to experience map (rendering) problems with the Vertical. Certain tiles will not render, sometimes at just a certain zoom level, sometimes across all of them. A soft reset will temporarily resolve the issue.

                                          Today’s test in photos: [started exercise - Walk] pic1 - location; pic2 - no map (@500); pic3 - map OK (@200, also @100) [stopped and saved exercise, entered maps from the main menu, NO map shown @500][Suunto app sync, LOGS SENT at 07:53 UTC] [soft reset] [started exercise - Walk] pic4 - map OK (@500, also @200, @100), pic5 - location.

                                          I believe the map (rendering) problem starts to occur when Vertical overheats (e.g. solar charging on a table) and does not go away when the watch cools down (must soft reset).

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