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    freeheeler @colinmacdon
    last edited by freeheeler 7 Oct 2023, 17:51 10 Jul 2023, 17:50

    @colinmacdon
    I support what @Jugger says with the sensitivity for magnets. it’s generally the case for my watches… helmet or backpack locks un-calibrate it very easily.

    regarding the maps, (in general) this is unlikely related to hardware. I have noticed myself some regions that didn’t work. it’s very difficult to check in advance what regions are affected. often new start of the watch helps. if it doesn’t, we need logs, account details, adjacent map (if applicable) and the area that’s having issues. I’m sure it’s not the entire map that’s affected

    living sideways

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      Freezer Bronze Member @Jugger
      last edited by 11 Jul 2023, 08:43

      @isazi @Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos I have also begun to experience map (rendering) problems with the Vertical. Certain tiles will not render, sometimes at just a certain zoom level, sometimes across all of them. A soft reset will temporarily resolve the issue.

      Today’s test in photos: [started exercise - Walk] pic1 - location; pic2 - no map (@500); pic3 - map OK (@200, also @100) [stopped and saved exercise, entered maps from the main menu, NO map shown @500][Suunto app sync, LOGS SENT at 07:53 UTC] [soft reset] [started exercise - Walk] pic4 - map OK (@500, also @200, @100), pic5 - location.

      I believe the map (rendering) problem starts to occur when Vertical overheats (e.g. solar charging on a table) and does not go away when the watch cools down (must soft reset).

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        Brad_Olwin Moderator @colinmacdon
        last edited by 11 Jul 2023, 13:01

        @colinmacdon This is not likely a hardware issue, there may be some map regions that remain problematic. Earlier in this thread are instructions on how to report black tiles and no map issue.

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          freeheeler @Brad_Olwin
          last edited by 11 Jul 2023, 13:20

          @Brad_Olwin
          we did that with the logs from 3 days ago. not so with the laatest ones afair

          living sideways

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            colinmacdon Bronze Member @Brad_Olwin
            last edited by 11 Jul 2023, 14:10

            @Brad_Olwin Thanks I sent the logs to @freeheeler. It just seems strange that problematic regions would work at all, and that a reboot would temporarily fix this issue.

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              colinmacdon Bronze Member @freeheeler
              last edited by 11 Jul 2023, 14:13

              @freeheeler yes the compass is not a big deal. It’s just that my Vertical has sat on a shelf for the last 3 days, not near a magnet, and today I open the compass…and it requires a calibration.

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                Maxime Teyssier @Dimitrios Kanellopoulos
                last edited by 15 Jul 2023, 13:08

                @Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos I have similar issues, and your solution does not work.
                The watch does not even deletes the maps I was able to download.
                I did hard/soft reset, re-install the Suunto App… Nothing changes.
                When is the next update planned for?
                Many thanks!

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                  runomatic Silver Members
                  last edited by runomatic 17 Jul 2023, 06:45

                  I had the problem over the weekend. Strangely enough, exactly this map have always worked so far. After a reboot it works again. But that can not be the purpose.

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                    Mff73 @runomatic
                    last edited by 17 Jul 2023, 11:34

                    @runomatic
                    It can exactly be part of the purpose : it can really be something else than the map itself, map not display is the symptom, what is the cause 😔.
                    I had once also, same as you, working, not working, reset and working again. Still same map and happen once only.

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                      Jan Krejčí
                      last edited by 19 Jul 2023, 14:47

                      So even with soft reset after loading the map to the watch, I got black squares again. Whole 371 kilometres during my Ultra ride. Not a pleasant experience.
                      I bought Suunto Vertical specifically for the maps. Which are not working. This issue has been posted for a long time but still no progress.
                      I wanted to like Suunto because I like the design and minimalism. But I need a reliable watch so I filed for a refund and will be buying some other brand.
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                        zhang965 @Jan Krejčí
                        last edited by 19 Jul 2023, 15:12

                        @Jan-Krejčí said in No-Map-Problem:

                        So even with soft reset after loading the map to the watch, I got black squares again. Whole 371 kilometres during my Ultra ride. Not a pleasant experience.
                        I bought Suunto Vertical specifically for the maps. Which are not working. This issue has been posted for a long time but still no progress.
                        I wanted to like Suunto because I like the design and minimalism. But I need a reliable watch so I filed for a refund and will be buying some other brand.

                        Sad to hear you go,

                        but I’d say without map, without S+ app, without long activities, without swimming, Vertical is still a reliable watch.

                        Kepp strong.

                        Winners Wear Winners

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                          Jan Krejčí @zhang965
                          last edited by 19 Jul 2023, 15:50

                          @zhang965 Sure it is. I’ve been satisfied with every aspect of the watch except for the maps. Unfortunately the maps are deal-breaker for me right now. Hope it’ll be fixed and in the future Suunto products will have no issues with maps, then I’ll join Suunto tribe again 😉

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                            zhang965 @Jan Krejčí
                            last edited by 19 Jul 2023, 15:57

                            @Jan-Krejčí said in No-Map-Problem:

                            @zhang965 Sure it is. I’ve been satisfied with every aspect of the watch except for the maps. Unfortunately the maps are deal-breaker for me right now. Hope it’ll be fixed and in the future Suunto products will have no issues with maps, then I’ll join Suunto tribe again 😉

                            yes, you should come back time and time, things are evolution very quickly, hope we can get next update within 6 months.

                            Winners Wear Winners

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                              runomatic Silver Members @zhang965
                              last edited by 19 Jul 2023, 16:37

                              @zhang965 said in No-Map-Problem:

                              yes, you should come back time and time, things are evolution very quickly, hope we can get next update within 6 months.

                              6 months? That was meant ironically, wasn’t it? I expect a somewhat faster response to all the bugs that the watch still has.

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                                zhang965 @runomatic
                                last edited by 19 Jul 2023, 16:46

                                @runomatic said in No-Map-Problem:

                                @zhang965 said in No-Map-Problem:

                                yes, you should come back time and time, things are evolution very quickly, hope we can get next update within 6 months.

                                6 months? That was meant ironically, wasn’t it? I expect a somewhat faster response to all the bugs that the watch still has.

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                                Winners Wear Winners

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                                  runomatic Silver Members @zhang965
                                  last edited by 19 Jul 2023, 17:47

                                  @zhang965 Okay, got it. It’s not ironically. 😞

                                  Let’s hope, that they put all their energy in the Vertical.

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                                    babychai Silver Members @zhang965
                                    last edited by 20 Jul 2023, 04:06

                                    @zhang965 this is mostly New Features. You should screen shot those Improvement / Bug Fix.

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                                      freeheeler @Jan Krejčí
                                      last edited by 20 Jul 2023, 11:06

                                      @Jan-Krejčí
                                      do you still have your vertical?
                                      did you send logs or will you be able to check if restarting the watch helps and if it happens again send logs then?

                                      living sideways

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                                        mikekoski490 Bronze Member
                                        last edited by 21 Jul 2023, 16:12

                                        Weird. Mine worked fine with complete maps for about 2 weeks, but now locally from my house where it always works Im back to a semi black grid again - some map but when scrolling around the screen all black grid outside 500m radius. Since I drove to run outside this 500m zone, I had just black grid.

                                        Another question: I tried changing map type from Outdoors to Detailed to Dark, which didn’t make a difference, but I noticed there was also no difference between Outdoors map and Dark map versions. Does ‘dark’ map mode only render in certain conditions?

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                                          Frederick Rochette Bronze Member
                                          last edited by 22 Jul 2023, 08:26

                                          Have to go outside… and what appended??? No word… oh yes one… TIRED VERY TIRED

                                          Wake up SUUUTO!!!

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