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    Majkel Paszeko @Juhani
    last edited by 19 Nov 2023, 19:42

    @Juhani I’m also able to reproduce the issue anytime i want with similar patterns. Intersting thing is that the more fresh watch is after last reset the easier is to trigger this issue. One could probably expect opposite behawior.
    Anyway I sent logs to Suunto using app (of course after soft reset, because while it’s happening app cannot connect to watch)

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      raphschroeder @Majkel Paszeko
      last edited by 20 Nov 2023, 15:00

      @Majkel-Paszeko

      Hi having exact Same Problems since last Update this weekend. I’m new here, does anyone know what to do or what’s gonna Happen? Thanks in advance.

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        Mff73 @raphschroeder
        last edited by 20 Nov 2023, 18:09

        @raphschroeder
        Share location where you have issue here
        https://forum.suunto.com/post/132238

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          Majkel Paszeko @raphschroeder
          last edited by 20 Nov 2023, 19:04

          @raphschroeder No workaround other than not touching maps. We sent our logs, locations, described issue pattern well. Now we need to wait and trust in Suunto dev team 😉

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            raphschroeder @Mff73
            last edited by 20 Nov 2023, 19:29

            @Mff73 thanks I did

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              Shrek3k @raphschroeder
              last edited by Shrek3k 20 Nov 2023, 21:01

              I had some grid-issues, too, but with the old watch firmware.
              Today’s run with map active did not result of any disappearance although I heavily used the map to orientate and zoomed in and out from.max to minimum and reverse. Let’s see how it develops.

              Just a question: how are maps updated after they received a (significant) update, e.g. after I had them on my watch for three months or so?
              How am I to suppesed to learn about a map update, or will the map just update somehow in the background? (I have to admit I can’t imagine the ‘automatic map update’)

              using a Suunto Vertical & Suunto Wings; mostly running (AKA stomping around) and cycling mostly through the northern german "wilderness"
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                Tieutieu Platinum Member @Shrek3k
                last edited by Tieutieu 21 Nov 2023, 06:03

                @Shrek3k said in No-Map-Problem:

                Just a question: how are maps updated after they received a (significant) update, e.g. after I had them on my watch for three months or so?

                For now there has been no map update released. Suunto is very probably working on it. Let’s see when it comes how they will make it work (update or uninstall/install again).
                I have made some OSM corrections around my place few months ago after SV was released. They have been visible just few days after in OSM. I have tried by curiosity just a few days ago to uninstall/install my area again on my SV. Corrections are not there.

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                  pavel.samokha @Tieutieu
                  last edited by 22 Nov 2023, 15:44

                  @Tieutieu said in No-Map-Problem:

                  For now there has been no map update released. Suunto is very probably working on it. Let’s see when it comes how they will make it work (update or uninstall/install again).
                  I have made some OSM corrections around my place few months ago after SV was released. They have been visible just few days after in OSM. I have tried by curiosity just a few days ago to uninstall/install my area again on my SV. Corrections are not there.

                  Yes, we will be updating offline maps with some regular schedule, but procedures are not in place yet.

                  Opinions expressed are solely my own and do not express the views or opinions of my employer

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                    dzembronja @pavel.samokha
                    last edited by 23 Nov 2023, 17:01

                    @pavel-samokha Good evening, will this update concern mapping the names of objects? I hope it will be even larger than 2 km

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                      pavel.samokha @dzembronja
                      last edited by 23 Nov 2023, 18:02

                      @dzembronja I was talking about map data update (roads, landcover, whatever).

                      What you are asking, ability to show lower zoom levels and additional info like names, are related to watch software capabilities. I can’t say when it will be possible but of course it’s known limitations

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                        dzembronja @pavel.samokha
                        last edited by 23 Nov 2023, 19:34

                        @pavel-samokha Of course, thank you for the answer, tell me about the black squares on the map, is this not a lack of a clock? Is it a software problem?

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                          pavel.samokha @dzembronja
                          last edited by 24 Nov 2023, 07:10

                          @dzembronja yes

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                            dzembronja @pavel.samokha
                            last edited by 24 Nov 2023, 09:01

                            @pavel-samokha Good day, I understand you, that this is a software problem, right? Thank you for your answer

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                              pavel.samokha @dzembronja
                              last edited by 24 Nov 2023, 09:33

                              @dzembronja yes, software problem, not data problem.

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                                dzembronja @pavel.samokha
                                last edited by 24 Nov 2023, 09:53

                                @pavel-samokha Because I thought it was the lack of a watch, that’s why I’m asking you this, it makes me happy that the problem is of a different plan,you reassured me,thaks

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                                  Majkel Paszeko @pavel.samokha
                                  last edited by 4 Dec 2023, 00:11

                                  @pavel-samokha Hi, can you tell us where Dev team is with fixing this issue? I have my SV stiil getting “black grid” and eventually crashing on particular map areas (when I’m running there or just moving map there). Do you know if the same issue was reported or reproduced for Race too? If it was, does new 2.30.32 update fix that?

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                                    pavel.samokha @Majkel Paszeko
                                    last edited by 4 Dec 2023, 06:23

                                    @Majkel-Paszeko please DM me the location

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                                    • Dimitrios KanellopoulosD Offline
                                      Dimitrios Kanellopoulos Community Manager
                                      last edited by 4 Dec 2023, 07:16

                                      If you have an issue with the maps please add your location in this thread https://forum.suunto.com/topic/9741/black-grid-issue

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                                        Majkel Paszeko @Dimitrios Kanellopoulos
                                        last edited by 4 Dec 2023, 08:21

                                        @Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos Thanks, I know this thread and I posted location there already 2 weeks ago and now again. For me it’s a little concern however that Suunto is still collecting “bad” locations. Just like the issue was not yet addressed, navigated or even reproduced by Dev Team? Or is it map files issue as itself and each locations must be fixed individually?

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                                          pavel.samokha @Majkel Paszeko
                                          last edited by 5 Dec 2023, 08:58

                                          @Majkel-Paszeko

                                          We’re collecting issues to study root causes
                                          At least one issue was identified and we have a fix, but I can’t promise when there will be a FW release containing it
                                          Black grid is normally software issue, not data issue

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