@sky-runner For me (Vertical 2 and Android) that is not the case. After the activity it’s available again. It can take like 10 seconds to appear black again, though

@DrSilverthorn Wait until you try to sync two or more watches with the app. Then as you switch between watches, the one that was inactive keeps bringing the routes back, so it becomes very difficult to get rid of them. You have to remove a route from every watch to truly remove it; otherwise it keeps coming back. There has to be a “master” copy - a source of truth - and I think it has to be in the app or more exactly in the user account on cloud because routes can also be added via the route planner on the web or sync with 3rd party services like Strava or Komoot. Also to make it even more complex there can be multiple Suunto apps on multiple devices. Even if only one device can still, routes can still be changed on every device. Personally I edit routes on 3 devices - a phone, a tablet, and MacBook laptop running iOS Suunto App. But only the phone does sync with the watches. Someone at Suunto needs to sit down and analyze this in details and fix it once and for all. A decade ago I fixed a similar mess of bookmark synchronization in Chrome browser, so I know it can be done.

Merged topics. If after watch restart the same map loads okay then we now identified one cause and it should be fixed in the next watch firmware update

@Nikolai-Simonov version 1.0.13-ext (77) And a strange is that I don’t have a save button even if I fill it with a phone number [image: 1776601447433-screenshot_20260419_142243.jpg] [image: 1776601488328-screenshot_20260419_142438.jpg] When I use the return button, sometimes it saves the number filled, and sometimes not. I also tried to select a contact instead of fill it manually.

@Thibault-B. I didn’t say nothing… I tried again this morning and it works fine. The app update may not have synced to the watch yesterday. Can’t wait to test it during my next training

@cpinky I have the same black grid issue https://forum.suunto.com/topic/15061/black-grid-on-new-maps?_=1776587723972

What are the main differences between this and the ‘Ghost runner’, are they essentially the same?

3rd place in a miler is impressive! Hope your wife went well in her race? Great to hear the SV2 performed well

@nseslija Same for me, by far the best sports/GPS watch I’ve ever owned - and I’ve owned plenty! Sure there’s been a few glitches and bugs but overall it’s one hell of a tool. It’s kept me on pace during my ultra’s and kept me safe and on track during many adventures in unknown territory I’ll have had it for 3 years next month, and the fact that over those 3 years it’s continually being worked on and improved is not lost on me. I’ve been part of this forum for years and this is just another nice extra… good job Suunto

@2b2bff Interesting, that’s good to know and I might give the Coros HRM a try whenever the Polar decides to pack up. With it on my upper forearm it doesn’t bother me at all, if I’m wearing long sleeves it just sits underneath whatever I’m wearing

@Olaf-Gottschalk As I wrote in your original post from 4 months ago, there’s a workaround without stopping the activity. After disconnect, switch to Tour battery performance in activity menu (long press bottom button), then switch it back to Performance. This disables and reenables watch’s Bluetooth and power meter reconnects to watch.

@Jan-Krejčí said in Bug: power meter loses connection in activity: will reenable watch Blueatooth again and the watch reconnects I don’t have a power meter to test, but if this works, it is a genius workaround! 🤯

@shamilt1 said in Race 2 accuracy: Suunto either know that it measures distance a little short It measures shorter than the other models. The question is is it more accurate, though?

@herlas Yes, Suunto shows both average powers, with and without zeros and in Wahoo settings, you can set if you want average power with zeros or without. I have set this to without zeros and I got SMALLER average power without zeros from Suunto than on Wahoo. Never got higher values from Suunto. On last ride, the difference was 3,6%. It’s clear, that algorithm will differ Suunto vs. Wahoo, but I think, this difference is high and this is the reason, that I’m not sure, if Suunto really doesn’t count auto pauses to the average power… With connecting to device which doesn’t support dual sided wattmeter, Assiomas should send the instantaneous power at a given time and it should be the sum of both pedals. EDIT: On ride with “longer” snack pause, the difference was 5,1%. EDIT2: So no, the difference is not because of auto pause🫤. [image: 1776505793278-screenshot_20260418-114309.png] [image: 1776505803202-screenshot_20260418-114248.png]

@maszop it’s still there in the last public version (6.8.13). Do you have another one?

Coming back to this thread, I now see the restriction “while the Walking activity is active.” First, I don’t think this is an important metric for “live” use. The reality is “step count” is a basic metric that is most useful when you don’t have access to other metrics. For example, a cheap pedometer you attach to your shoe can give you steps but likely won’t have GPS to measure actual distance. In almost all cases, your actual distance is more important than number of steps. However, there is a related metric, cadence that can be relevant. This is “steps per minute,” and in running the advice is to typically around 180 spm which is what I tend to go for, although some prefer slightly different values. Search “ideal running cadence” but here’s a starter link: https://us.suunto.com/blogs/blog/tracking-cadence-heart-rate-and-pace-while-running So I’d look to cadence for “how effective are my current steps” and distance instead of total steps.