1.0.16(93) appears to be working for me now. Thanks! I’ll test it on a run tomorrow probably.

@dreamer_ I’m really happy to see you here. You’re a very discerning user and I truly appreciate that you also take the time to recognize the positive things. That kind of balanced feedback is very valuable for us. Please don’t hesitate to reach out to me privately anytime if you have comments, ideas, or suggestions. I would genuinely appreciate it, and I’m always happy to pass them directly to our team. Your input is truly valued.

@BrunoH said in Charging of battery: One internet trick was to put the device in the freezer for 30 mins Just be careful and do not charge while the battery temperature is below 0°C (32°F). From https://www.batteryuniversity.com/article/bu-410-charging-at-high-and-low-temperatures/ Many battery users are unaware that consumer-grade lithium-ion batteries cannot be charged below 0°C (32°F). Although the pack appears to be charging normally, plating of metallic lithium occurs on the anode during a sub-freezing charge that leads to a permanent degradation in performance and safety.

I was thinking this was about the titanium Race 2 because It seems you all are comparing the Race 2 titanium with the Vertical 2 titanium. But the thing is I have the Race 2 steel and I’m seeing a little discrepancy of what I have recorded with Garmin. But my watch is very new (2 days) and I need much further testing. There’s also something very strange with the Race 2 (at this very new moment for now). When I import a GPX track (downloaded from Garmin Connect) into Komoot to have the turn-by-turn indications while navigating with the Race 2, is like the indications are a bit later than they should (just some few seconds). When there’s a roundabout, or a turn it seems the watch pop-ups the remaining indication a bit later or even after the turn or roundabout. I need more testing but I’m posting this because I don’t know if it can be related with the issue you are posting here. And the thing is that those tracks are working fine in Garmin and other brands. Or perhaps does not have sense at all, but using the same track for both the Race 2 and the Vertical 2, perhaps there’s a mechanism to see if there’s any delay with the GNSS of the Race 2. I’d be interesting if someone could test the navigation with the same track and indications with the Race 2 and the Vertical 2 to see if there are GNSS discrepancies.

@2b2bff you perfectly right! I’ve checked and I had zonesense for trail mode. Thanks a lot! Instead yesterday night the ohr does not work and this cause a bad recording info for the sleeping data. I think it’s the first time after a lot of correct night!I would like to add the usually the data ara incredible align with the real info (I’m a father and when my son wake up in the night and I bring him in parents bed, the watch are able to capture this awake time)

@peringmar said in Update personal record in the app: The app page should consider using segments for all stats or at least have it as an own metric. Scenario fastest 10k also includes fastest 5k so logically 5k record should also be updated. This is how it worked in Movescount

@bobbyfw03 Frankly, I still don’t know who’s responsible for these Suunto Plus Guides, whether they come from Suunto or from Runna.

I’m a little confused with the need for the Suunto plus. Is this for metrics from the workout? My user case would be simply listening to music or taking a call. I’m guessing with that usage it would be a simple turn the headphones on, connect to the phone and away you go?

@Nelson-Diogo Hopefully, you sent logs and tagged some of the testers or Suunto folks in the forum to report it @egika @bradley-olwin

The watch and phone are connected via Bluetooth, and I’m receiving notifications, but the app shows no connection. I turned Bluetooth off and on on the phone, but it didn’t fix the problem. What else can I do? [image: 1776097483350-a11.jpg]

@borgelkranz said in Suunto and Concept 2 indoor rowing: @off242 what I can add: as of late, SmartRow does directly connect to EXR. What I learned in that context: there are different versions of the SmartRow pulley. The old, silver one and the new, black one. They seem to differ slightly with respect to connection. I own the silver one and EXR had to provide a bug fix for it to connect. The ability of EXR to connect to the SmartRow pulley directly is a fairly new development, and happened due to collaboration between the two companies. For those new to this, previously the only way to work was by a “broadcast” method, where the SmartRow pulley connected to the SmartRow app on one device (like an iPhone) then the SR app “broadcast” to EXR on a second device (e.g. iPad or Apple TV). You’re correct that the original silver metal pulley behaves a bit different from later black plastic pulleys. Both transmit in SmartRow’s own format as I understand with subtle differences. The “broadcast” method is either FTMS or very close to it. Some people disliked this method due to requiring two devices; additionally, the broadcast method adds a slight delay, so EXR is about a half-stroke “behind” the SR app. The new “direct connection” improves things in most regards, but has the negative consequence that sessions are no longer written to the SmartRow online logbook. EXR can write session data to the Concept2 logbook for those people, but not yet to the SR one. Additionally, SmartRow also has a “power handle” meant for air-resistance rowers like the Concept2. People who happened to get a cheaper air-resistance machine with poor metrics can get this handle to get more accurate data. However, I suspect the cost of a cheaper rower and the SmartRow handle would be close enough to the Concept2 one might just get that anyway. The SmartRow handle also works with the Concept2, and while C2 people don’t necessarily need better data (given C2 is the standard) the handle also has four buttons, each with two top/bottom selections which can be used to do things like control a music player and perhaps eventually may have game effects in EXR (like the Zwift Play buttons in the cycling world). SmartRow is working on a “handle version” for WaterRower to give those media controls over there as well, and that version of the handle has dual bluetooth support, which allows one to have that direct EXR connection as well as a second connection to SmartRow app for those who want consistent logbook records. I believe the handle versions qualify as FTMS based on SmartRow’s web site.

@pavel.samokha Ah, thanks—I had to go into the PDF to find it, but there it was!

I’m still learning about the Climb Guidance with my Race 2 but this is also also already implemented by Amazfit in their very new Climb screens: ![alt text]([image: 1776091444591-01adf467-4a8a-4fd5-b985-e2a241ffa406-1776091421416578332154588355410.jpg] And this: https://forum.suunto.com/topic/15009/climb-guidance-improvement You can even configure the remaining ascent and descent between waypoints as datafields. I’d love to see those improvements in the Vertical 2/Race 2

@gkaempfer Same here

Unlike the first glance the Vertical (1) and the Race (1) seem to have different internals apart from the display. Or maybe the display itself need to be addressed differently than the AMOLED variant. However, they couldn’t make it a stable release on time, so they postponed it for the Vertical and only relased it for the other watches. But Suunto is still working on it… And yes, there are some features that are exclusive to the Race 2 and Vertical 2, as they have newer, faster chipsets…