@Highlands big thank

Of course, this should be a standard feature. White, Red, & remember last mode! In addition, few steps of brightness would be nice, there is not always a need for full brightness. If brightness is implemented, do not cycle through red/white, must stay in selected color mode when changing brightness. Separate power ON into Red and White (i.e. two separate shortcuts) would be a nice bonus.

@dreamer_ totally agree, I doing push for tbt with gpx BUT we need to make sure we implement this properly, because this can’t work like other platforms that simply interpret sharp curves as turns. Doing it right requires significant engine work, since the entire route would need to be reconstructed and map-matched. On top of that, GPX files contain a limited number of points, which creates another layer of complexity. In many cases, tracks don’t perfectly align with the actual roads or trails, meaning some turns wouldn’t even be detected after retracing the route. The problem is far more complex than it initially appears. Interpreting curves as turns is easy, but that would create an unreliable navigation experienc, and I don’t think that’s what either of us wants.

@Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos Another crash today at 11:45 CET. Logs sent at 11:52 CET. Watch used Vertical 2. I’ll send you my mail in PM. So far with the current FW both my R2 and V2 are crashing every 3,4 runs. Custom trail run mode Runna guide selected Navigation route selected without turn by turn Burner and ZoneSense Plus apps External Polar H10 V2 connected to Android (today’s logs sent) while R2 to iOS Details: Upon receiving of the “thanks for running with runna” notification I was heading towards the end of the route and was waiting for the end notification. The runna notification never disappeared. What I have noticed is that the notifications with this FW are not going away automatically (most of the time but not always) until mid button pressed. The details of the run in the application are missing: all the Suunto plus data (burner) and the asc/dsc are both 0. Technique part is missing too. Any news of a hotfix coming or should I downgrade? I’ll be switching to the Ocean for now and the training season, if that doesn’t work back to the Forerunnner. Thank for your help!

@Squirrel thanks!

@sky-runner I agree. Things have changed by a lot . Perhaps trail running is not the scenario nowadays. About that argument and if you go further with that and about the map, do you really use the map in a race with beacons? Personally, it’s very rare for me to waste time using it for running in a race with beacons, but I do not conceive a watch without maps (I’m not saying I don’t conceive the watch without the navigation arrow, of course). But is very likely you are running most races with beacons (there are those that do not have them, of course). Now looking at the shot I posted about the Fenix 8, they are using just a vertical line and not an arrow (I find much better Suunto’s design, not only for this but for datafields with big numbers without text legends). This is not a comparison, It’s thinking about the arrow. But if navigation arrow is (or can be) implemented the other arrow should clearly be removed and changed for something else. I see even mark using an opaque tiny rectangle, and matching the colour of the zone. There was another brand doing that (I think). This is just thinking about it. I’m not saying that should be done (at all). But in the other side, it’s very likely that is not something complicated to implement. It’s just about keeping things clean (and I totally agree with you in that).

How unfortunate that with the latest and last firmware, heart rate measurement stopping has become so much more frequent. Before it was extremely rare, at least for me but now it seems like it’s a weekly occurrence.

@Brad_Olwin Really? Very interesting as XC Skiing is my other Usecase for the Vertical. Sun and Snow together are so bright that the MIP really shines. Also the Solar power collection is welcome. For running I really like the Race S as it is much lighter and the OHR works perfectly since the last update. Waiting for an Ocean 2 Titanium in the Race 2 case. If the new display is that much better it would serve all my demands. But as long as RaceS (discounted), Vertical Titanium (used) and Mares Divecomp together cost less than the Ocean I will stick with this trio

I enjoy both verticals and I have no problem reading them but for the summer season MiP is awesome. [image: 1779639840081-img_1252.jpeg] [image: 1779639840139-img_1254.jpeg]

@Adrian.S here is a way to fix this. Export both activities as fit files. Use a third party to merge the files and export the merged as a GPX exercise. Upload the merged GPX into the sportstracker website. The merged file will be present and if acceptable you can delete the separate original files.

@Joaquin wonderful work, Joaquín. Thank you! Is there any estimate for when this update will arrive in Race 2?

Yes this would make me upgrade from my Suunto Core that has been my main watch for many many years without fail. Having UK tides on a watch would be a great option and I would certainly buy the Vetical if it had a tide widget. I know it has great navigation etc. which I would absolutely make use so I am not knocking the watch at all

Thank you everyone i will wait

Well, I just tried out the custom multisport mode. It was a bust—the watch didn’t detect the switch between running and swimming. I’ll try switching modes manually. It’s losing its appeal… It might have something to do with not switching modes, but the open-water track is full of glitches. I didn’t have this problem during my other open-water sessions. [image: 1779466631129-nage.png] I didn’t zigzag that much, though I’ll admit I don’t always swim in a straight line .

said in Suunto Spark: I did not comment but I’m testing my Spark. So feedback post: Sound quality is really good. Build quality is very nice. They feel really premium. Not so good things: The touch is too sensitive. I have disabled by default the “one click” Audio notifications are exactly the same as without the Spark. I knew that, but I didn’t expect the latin american spanish for Spain. Metrics are not integrated with the watch. I think the S+ app should have two more options: An option to toggle on/off things like navigation audio indications, so users can decide if they want the navigation audio indications (which are very useful in several cases). For that, Suunto should implement the feature (which is still missing). An option to toggle on/off to use the metrics taken from the Spark’s pedometers in the main activity in the watch. I mean, to not have 2 activities in the app (watch and spark). Something similar that what happens when you are using a chest/arm strap. Only one activity with the much better bpm taken from the chest/armstrap, not two activities. Something similar happens here with the Spark, since you have 2 additional pedometers that are going to work a lot better than something that is taken from a watch that is in one moving arm. For someone that made the effort of buying the Spark, I see this as an important software bug that should be solved. Having 2 individual activities has not sense (at all). Ideally: Go further with a firmware update for using the pedometers of the spark for indoor/treadmill runs, if possible of course. Things like voice notes while on workout (if possible). Just those little things for making the Spark a must and a perfect companion. About the voice things. Garmin, Amazfit and since this May, now Coros are working seriously on this. This is Coros’ May update: https://eu.coros.com/stories/coros-metrics/c/may-2026 It is very interesting for several scenarios (I.E, running with gloves in winter but see Coros notes). I think the Spark have a lot of potential here and Suunto should really think in the integration as an ecosystem. There are many use cases considering also the integrated pods. There’s a lot of marketing with these things, but at the end Suunto is behind the rest and the integration thing is somehow super interesting considering Suunto has it’s own headsets.