Thank you very much, I guess I’ll have to solve it that way as well. It would be great if Suunto could pull dive sites from PADI, SSI, or DAN so that you could get suggestions about where the dive took place.

Your watchface looks nice. It is simple and easy to read. Can you modify it to have 3 bottom data fields, same as top row? Could you please share your code?

@Łukasz-Szmigiel said in Is there still demand for a modern MIP endurance watch?: best part of MIP is its transreflective part. Meaning - it looks better when the light is shined on it, like in full sunlight. It doesn’t have to emit light to counter the brightness of the sunny day as the amoled has to. MIP is basically LCD - the same technology that was in old fashioned digital watches or in Ambit series. The only difference between MIP is LCD is that in MIP each pixel also have a memory storage (hence MIP = Memory In Pixel).

@EzioAuditore said in [Vertical 2, 2.53.42] Exited (crashed?) activity!: @sky-runner Did you have the same problem with the previous FW This the first time ever I had a crash like this. I’ve just started using Vertical 2 a couple of weeks ago (with the new FW from the start), but used Race S and Race for a year and half before.

@ashic Hi I am having exactly the same issue! Even Suunto chat could not help me. Waiting for an answer from their tech department. I also did a reset and lost my dive profiles…will try the D5 option…

@Egika thank you too.

said in Offline Maps and Routing in Suunto App: Im having problems with downloading the offline maps to the phone. It works for my watch but the with my phone Im stuck with “Waiting to download…” msg. I have cleared cache and data on app (not reinstalled as of yet) and also tried two different Wifis so far. Anyone else not being able to download the offline maps to the phone (again it works for my watch)? Thanks I have now tried to reinstall the app but also a third Wifi (hot spot this time) with no success? Its wierd that the Suunto Watch can download the maps but the Mobile phone cannot isnt? It would be nice if they were availble online so one can download them to the pc and transfer them onto the phone when problems like this occur. Just a tip!

I’ve got about 1 week left of my return window…I’ve already sent one back as I wondered whether it only affected certain units and hoped I might be lucky second time round. I was also banking on it being addressed in the update…to me the accuracy fix would’ve been better than all the new features that came along. Might be time to try a Vertical 2…

@Joaquin sure. This is the usual route for these testings [image: 1777017435965-11888.jpg] The track is roundtrip: Up (with 2 additional forks) and down repeating everything again. All notifications work in both directions. It’s just about the accuracy of them, remaining the notifications inside and after the turns (refer to my previous post with the shots of the very first roundabout) About the microphone/speaker, I was only speaking about the audio navigation notifications since this thread is about navigation thinking in the use of the headphones (I.E, the Garmin Instinct 3 does not have a microphone or speaker but has audio notifications through the headphones (and that watch is able to even notify the roundabouts and despite It can’t show the maps). Suunto has already invested in the engineering of very nice headphones and with very interesting products that are already in the market (like the Spark). I think that with several software updates (both watch and headphones), those kind of products could be used as a very nice marketing thing (for something like an “ecosystem”). I’m thinking also in running indoor or treadmill when there’s no GNSS signal. But this is another topic, just to explain It further (and also to say that you already have the microphone and speaker in the market that could be used to go further). In my opinion, optional audio navigation notifications are sometimes incredible useful. Thank you so much

Very Nice!!!

I am also someone who have been using GPS watches for a decade and half now, starting from Garmin Forerunner 110 in 2011 and having Vertical 2 as my latest watch. I run in Pacific Northwest on mountain trails that are often under a very dense tree cover, under tall coniferous trees such as Dogras Fir, Red Cedar, Western Hemlock, etc. This is an extremely difficult environment for GPS and historically most GPS watches were very inaccurate. For a long time I thought that Suunto Ambit 3 Peak with its massive GPS antenna was perhaps one of the most accurate watches, but the new generation of watches with dual-band GNSS that have been released in the last few years, starting with Garmin Fenix 7 are amazingly accurate in this environment compared to anything we had before. The last generation of Suunto watches with dual-band GPS - Vertical, Race, Race S, Race 2, Vertical 2 - are all very accurate and some of the best in class in terms of GPS accuracy. But in my opinion, still nothing beats the Airoha GNSS chipset that was used in Garming Fenix 7, Forerunner 255, 955, and few other watches a few years ago. I think more recent GPS watches are a bit less accurate even though they may offer better battery efficiency. Here is a comparison of Fenix 7X Sapphire vs. Suunto Race S - on a similar terrain with the same map zoom level. Both of these are are examples of running downhill on a narrow singletrack trail. Both of these show 6 laps on the same loop. You can see that the track produced by Airoha GNSS definitely looks tighter with tracks from laps closer on top of each other. [image: 1776988567192-screenshot-2026-04-23-at-4.55.25-pm.png] [image: 1776987438944-screenshot-2026-04-23-at-4.18.40-pm.png] To be fair, more recent Garmin watches (Fenix 8, Enduro 3) are definitely less accurate than both Suunto watches and earlier Garmin watches. Also, distance wise I think Suunto is a bit more accurate. Garmin had a tendency to shorten the distance by 1-1.5% compared to the distance of the GPS track.

@Nikolai-Simonov said in Live location S+ app: It’s not a bug but feature! you don’t need to re-connect it each time, just take a 5-15 sec to connect. Thanks for all the explanations. The Bluetooth connection to the watch is a bit unclear to me, but I understand the general principle. And I confirm your explanation: even if the app says “waiting for S+ application…”, it will turn green as soon as the activity starts. However, I tried the live tracking again this evening during a run, but unfortunately, it didn’t work very well - version 1.0.16-ext (102) First, I had trouble activating tracking: the watch said it was connected (I had the GPS coordinates on the dedicated screen) and the app indicated a connection with the watch. But I still wasn’t located on the app’s map, either at the start or after a short movement. I had to stop the activity, disconnect and reconnect the app and the watch, and start a new activity to finally be located on the map and see my movement. Several kilometers later, I checked and the watch was disconnected (“DISCONECTED state:99”). I’m not entirely sure, but I think the app still indicated a connection with the watch. I tried disabling the Suunto app on the watch and then re-enabling it, disconnecting from the app and re-enabling it, several times, in various orders, but still without success. I finally gave up on LiveTracking. Last weekend, I also had some issues with version 1.0.13-ext (77) where I experienced a disconnection for a few kilometers, but the connection was restored afterward and the tracking resumed (with a long straight line corresponding to the disconnection). As I work in software development myself, I imagine it can be very difficult to diagnose with just this text information, sorry

@Nikolai-Simonov sorry, I missed that one. I have checked your code and it is extensive like for simple watchface. I thought it is easier to code such a things. I am struggling with google ai with my watchface. Can I send you my code for some help?

@johann.fuehrer said in Weather Sync Bug: @Matthew-0 Maybe a dumb question, but have you already been out and let the watch aquire some satellite link to get your position? The app on the phone retrieves the weather data and it uses the (global) position of the phone, not that of the watch. The behavior as described by the OP I see when the suunto app is closed on my iPhone. If it is still running in the background all is fine and weather data can be synchronized to the watch.

Hi. I also think the Vertical is still a good sports watch. I hope that in the next v1 update they’ll be able to include the altitude in the elevation contours in the maps at zoom resolutions that the MIP screen can display. Having them is useful in some conditions.