@sky-runner I agree. Things have changed by a lot . Perhaps trail running is not the scenario nowadays. About that argument and if you go further with that and about the map, do you really use the map in a race with beacons? Personally, it’s very rare for me to waste time using it for running in a race with beacons, but I do not conceive a watch without maps (I’m not saying I don’t conceive the watch without the navigation arrow, of course). But is very likely you are running most races with beacons (there are those that do not have them, of course). Now looking at the shot I posted about the Fenix 8, they are using just a vertical line and not an arrow (I find much better Suunto’s design, not only for this but for datafields with big numbers without text legends). This is not a comparison, It’s thinking about the arrow. But if navigation arrow is (or can be) implemented the other arrow should clearly be removed and changed for something else. I see even mark using an opaque tiny rectangle, and matching the colour of the zone. There was another brand doing that (I think). This is just thinking about it. I’m not saying that should be done (at all). But in the other side, it’s very likely that is not something complicated to implement. It’s just about keeping things clean (and I totally agree with you in that).

How unfortunate that with the latest and last firmware, heart rate measurement stopping has become so much more frequent. Before it was extremely rare, at least for me but now it seems like it’s a weekly occurrence.

@Joaquin I’d like to revisit the issue of creating a route in offline mode on iOS. I recently ran into this, and the app generated a route in a straight line without using trails. Is it normal for the route to be generated without using trails? What should I do in this situation—for example, should I create a route using waypoints (which will result in straight lines between the waypoints)? Update: I accidentally opened the map settings and discovered that you can switch between online and offline modes. The route is calculated based on the selected mode. In offline mode, without a mobile network connection, the route is calculated using trails.

@Brad_Olwin Really? Very interesting as XC Skiing is my other Usecase for the Vertical. Sun and Snow together are so bright that the MIP really shines. Also the Solar power collection is welcome. For running I really like the Race S as it is much lighter and the OHR works perfectly since the last update. Waiting for an Ocean 2 Titanium in the Race 2 case. If the new display is that much better it would serve all my demands. But as long as RaceS (discounted), Vertical Titanium (used) and Mares Divecomp together cost less than the Ocean I will stick with this trio

I enjoy both verticals and I have no problem reading them but for the summer season MiP is awesome. [image: 1779639840081-img_1252.jpeg] [image: 1779639840139-img_1254.jpeg]

@Adrian.S here is a way to fix this. Export both activities as fit files. Use a third party to merge the files and export the merged as a GPX exercise. Upload the merged GPX into the sportstracker website. The merged file will be present and if acceptable you can delete the separate original files.

I have reported too, logs are sent: https://forum.suunto.com/topic/15254/combining-2-workouts-into-1-my-suunto-froze-up-today-during-a-59-km-ultra-run

@Mathis-.-Pct To follow up: https://forum.suunto.com/topic/15153/crash-reports-collection-q1-2026

@Joaquin wonderful work, Joaquín. Thank you! Is there any estimate for when this update will arrive in Race 2?

Yes this would make me upgrade from my Suunto Core that has been my main watch for many many years without fail. Having UK tides on a watch would be a great option and I would certainly buy the Vetical if it had a tide widget. I know it has great navigation etc. which I would absolutely make use so I am not knocking the watch at all

Thank you everyone i will wait

Well, I just tried out the custom multisport mode. It was a bust—the watch didn’t detect the switch between running and swimming. I’ll try switching modes manually. It’s losing its appeal… It might have something to do with not switching modes, but the open-water track is full of glitches. I didn’t have this problem during my other open-water sessions. [image: 1779466631129-nage.png] I didn’t zigzag that much, though I’ll admit I don’t always swim in a straight line .

said in Suunto Spark: I did not comment but I’m testing my Spark. So feedback post: Sound quality is really good. Build quality is very nice. They feel really premium. Not so good things: The touch is too sensitive. I have disabled by default the “one click” Audio notifications are exactly the same as without the Spark. I knew that, but I didn’t expect the latin american spanish for Spain. Metrics are not integrated with the watch. I think the S+ app should have two more options: An option to toggle on/off things like navigation audio indications, so users can decide if they want the navigation audio indications (which are very useful in several cases). For that, Suunto should implement the feature (which is still missing). An option to toggle on/off to use the metrics taken from the Spark’s pedometers in the main activity in the watch. I mean, to not have 2 activities in the app (watch and spark). Something similar that what happens when you are using a chest/arm strap. Only one activity with the much better bpm taken from the chest/armstrap, not two activities. Something similar happens here with the Spark, since you have 2 additional pedometers that are going to work a lot better than something that is taken from a watch that is in one moving arm. For someone that made the effort of buying the Spark, I see this as an important software bug that should be solved. Having 2 individual activities has not sense (at all). Ideally: Go further with a firmware update for using the pedometers of the spark for indoor/treadmill runs, if possible of course. Things like voice notes while on workout (if possible). Just those little things for making the Spark a must and a perfect companion. About the voice things. Garmin, Amazfit and since this May, now Coros are working seriously on this. This is Coros’ May update: https://eu.coros.com/stories/coros-metrics/c/may-2026 It is very interesting for several scenarios (I.E, running with gloves in winter but see Coros notes). I think the Spark have a lot of potential here and Suunto should really think in the integration as an ecosystem. There are many use cases considering also the integrated pods. There’s a lot of marketing with these things, but at the end Suunto is behind the rest and the integration thing is somehow super interesting considering Suunto has it’s own headsets.

@Feissty Maybe a trivial question: Have you enabled location services on your smartphone, and does the Suunto app also have permission to access your location? At least on Android — unfortunately, I can’t say how it works on Apple devices. A simple test is to tap the map icon at the bottom of the list in the Suunto app. You should then see your location displayed on the map. [image: 1779457690263-screenshot_20260522_153607_suunto.jpg]

@Nelson-Diogo thanks Are there people that use an iPhone? Thanks

@dreamer_ You were right: Pace 4 - black crystal and cloud white. https://x.com/corosjapan/status/2057639416659947996?s=46