Hey same here also with a Redmi note 9 pro, MIUI 14.0.5 and android 12SKQ 1.211019.001.

@Sebastien-Trudel I’ve had Vertical for two months and I’m very satisfied so far. No major issues with the firmware like with F8. Hopefully it will continue that way. Running, trail running (with HR belt), hiking, metrics OK, SuuntoApp much more user-friendly. I don’t miss smart features at all.

Just to throw a thought in here, as a (newly minted) Run user: the barometer field needs some help. In Imperial units (which I as American have a love hate relationship with) it shows to the ones place for inHg—literally useless information because it would be the equivalent of showing only to the hundreds place hPa! And whats worse, the barometer trendline (far more useful, and a staple of suunto watches across decades of product lines) isn’t an option at all, despite showing up in the preview (alongside value, in the same field) for “Concentric Analog”. Not sure if that could be fixed faster since it applies uniformly to all existing watchfaces, but man alive is it annoying… As for needing new designs, I agree with many on this thread that have pointed out a lot of the designs work quite well, and a lot of it comes down to taste. However, as the OP pointed out, there’s some very minor tweaks that could help tremendously, including functional changes like my above noted barometer problem…

@Patrick-RS Are you sure that no other device (e.g. your Wahoo Elemnt) is connected to your power meter via Bluetooth before you try to pair your power meter to your Suunto? This power meter only supports one active Bluetooth connection.

@tuxbuster said in Desktop route planner thoughts: But it’s a great tool for planning on desktop I’ve been running iOS Suunto app, including route editor, in full screen mode on a MacBook laptop. So that is an alternative option. Usually I plan a route on laptop and save it, then simply force a sync on my phone, and the route gets synced to the watch via the cloud. There is no need to manually copy any files, so the experience is even more streamlined than with the web route planner. Also, Android Suunto app should run on Chromebook and offer a similar experience, and it might be possible to run it on Windows OS or at least it was possible in the past. Alternatively, if you are a Strava user, integration with Strava route editor is equally streamlined. Basically, I add a route on Strava and save it. Then I force sync in the Suunto app on the phone, and Suunto app pulls it directly from Strava and syncs it to the watch. Very simple!

I have an update. I chatted with Suunto, but they were not very helpful to be honest. Said will review the logs and discuss it with the team. But if issues persisted to send the watch back so they can check it. I did a factory reset and did not work either. I then reverted to the previous SW version and apparently that made it work. Granted it has been only one swim, but there were 0 issues with the laps.

@GiPFELKiND I had forgotten weather source and could not look it up.

@Tomas5 yes, you’re right, I actually never thought about how one could interpret the “like / dislike “ button in different ways to communicate in different ways. For me it always was/is a way to show my respect/thankfulness for helping others or telling something interesting or just about being communicative, and I only dislike rude or respect less posts. I may be quite too sensitive to respectless behaviour, which is maybe rooted in my martial arts background ( In most traditional martial arts showing even the slightest bit of disrespect in tournament e.g rolling your eyes or just waving with your hand normally results in direct disqualification). I may think different about dislikes now - thanks

It is normal i have to reset every 2 to 4 days my phone just because a part of the Communication between watch and phone is not anymore working? And the Information (Sync with Suunto App) why sometimes it takes hours to go away, what information need so long to travel. the phone is normaly not more then 1 to 5m away ? [image: 1766766193762-20251216_094250_cut.jpg]

@daveathletic +1

Not sure if still necessary. But I also need to reboot my Race 2 everytime before skiing. Otherwise Runs are not counted. @Egika Sent the logs this morning and you a PN with the Details.

@Tieutieu said in Q4 2025 Firmware Update Infos?: @Tomas5 yes when update will be out Exactly the answer I would have given!

I have had the blank watch sync issues with V2 so guessing it is SA related. I heard someone say you can restart SA and this will solve the issue without restarting the phone. I only had this happen once and restarted the phone.

After a few weeks of testing, the issue started to occur again. The OHR sensor turns off without warning and does not turn back on until the watch is removed from the wrist or a forced restart is performed. [image: 1766748113856-img_5821.jpeg]

I would very much like to disable VO2max detection for trail running activities too. When I owned Garmin, my VO2max continuously declining because a do at least 1-2 serious trail runs per week on a steep terrain. Once I disabled trail running VO2max on Garmin, the estimate steadily went up from 47 to over 52 in just a few months. Now, that I have owned Suunto Race S and S for over a year, my VO2max has been stuck in the 48-49 range, occasionally going to upper 49. I feel that is a bit too low. Every time I do a trail run, it always goes down to lower 48 or even upper 47. The funny thing is that I am a relatively better trail runner than I am a road runner. I have good and efficient technique when running on technical trails, but despite that the VO2max estimate is always punished!