@galerna do you wear it while sleeping? It starts from a certain value after turning the watch on (idk how that value is calculated) but its intended use is to wear it overnight where it charges during sleep and then while wearing it during the day it discharges when your active/stressed and sometimes charges again when you’re relaxing enough, e.g. taking a nap. It’s not working correctly when you just use the watch during exercise

@2b2bff optical HR sensors can never be as accurate as measuring the electrical signal with a chest strap. The higher the heart rate, the shorter the R-R intervals, so the measurement error of optical signal detection are a higher percentage of the R-R interval as the HR increases. This throws the math of ZS way off.

I would like to see a sum of descents (total vertical) on weekly, monthly, and yearly summary. So far, I can only see the distance, which in downhill skiing is pretty irrelevant

@Hugues78fr Yes I understand, that is why I said it is a great idea, and thus i was taking it hypothetically further…very often at a diveresort or liveaboard they show you this drawn card. I would find it a great feature if i could just take a picture and have it on my wrist! The Nautic has an awesome screen…so i guess showing a drawn map or picture for me would be SUPERHANDY If there was ANYTHING on my wishlist that would be it! Tides and maps…tssshhh…i have a phone

I can confirm that too. It has been introduced in latest firmware.

Tested today with the Coros HR armband, everything seems fine - firmware du Coros : V1.22.0 [image: 1771852447633-img_0483.jpeg]

@Brad_Olwin “My Plan” is Suunto’s own approach of a training plan, or is it called differently now? I use the iOS app in German translation, what is still a bit lacking…

@SirMcKey @sportsfreund @brad_olwin Thank you! I’m slowly getting back into online things…

@gipfelkind I found the cause: the Morning Report is triggered by arm movement while I’m still in bed. If I don’t see it and leave it undismissed for an hour, it vanishes and cannot be accessed again that day.

@cumbrian-runner hi, yeah, I have the newest firmware as well. I did a hard reset and did a 5km test run, and compared the activity with my old garmin forerunner 255 + polar verity sense arm band. Looks much better now, there are some wobbles here and there (like showing up 10bpm higher in around 18minutes), but overall it is pretty good (162 to 163 bpm average). My 5km run: [image: 1771832282797-zrzut-ekranu-2026-02-23-o-08.26.54.png] Climbing the stairs still not quite good, the HR is updated to proper values only after i stop for a while, and yes I had the watch pretty tight on my wrist and a bit above the bone. And to indicate what was going on before hard reset, one of my walks: [image: 1771832233700-zrzut-ekranu-2026-02-23-o-08.36.55.png]

@Dima-Pursanov Let’s hope so. It would make the watch a better tool.

Still crashing: this app doesn’t like when I follow a route I have created. It struggles a bit to lock my position on the route. On this example my real position (red) and my route (blue): app is stuck 383 m from my real position (blue dots) because there was a small detour and it can’t process it. Eventually it crashes because distance is too far… [image: 1771769469318-img_9555.jpg]

@cumbrian-runner Welcome to the club --> Thread

A week on & I’ve done a good mix of walks & runs, some hilly & some flat (48 miles with 5111ft ascent). The Race has reported spot on ascent values throughout so the cleaning process above definitely works

[image: 1771754828727-img20260222100401.jpg] Suunto – built for the grind.(Nix für Träumer ;o))

Hello, I was just skiing 6 days and alpine ski mode worked perfectly. I did two sessions per day, one in the morning an second on the afternoon. I did not needed to do reboots or anything else. Watch is Race 2 with latest fw.

@ADidier said in Third-party training: @Brad_Olwin, I understand that the old operating system of the Race 2, Vertical 2 requires an addition in the form of additional applications, it was designed like this. I just hope that with this new software platform, Suunto will be able to communicate with third parties such as other watch brands (Garmin, Coros) that do not use Suunto+. In the meantime, I hand transpose my Runna plans into interval training. At the moment, there’s no sign the new OS used for the Run will be continued to be used. The Race 2 and Vertical 2 use the older OS and those watches were released after the Run. The Run OS was described as “an experiment” not as a direct successor.