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    jjpazJ
    After analyzing several activities using two watches simultaneously for comparison and running all the raw data through a pair of AIs, these are the conclusions obtained: aggressive post-processing filter within the FusedSpeed algorithm or a calibration bias in the Race 2 accelerometer. It seems that Race 2 is more agressive/conservative than previous Vertical/RaceS algorithms. FYI, If you feel like reading for 1 minute: TECHNICAL REPORT: Distance and Cadence Discrepancy (Suunto Race 2) Subject: Systematic Underestimation of Distance and Cadence: Suunto Race 2 vs. Suunto Vertical/Race S (FusedSpeed/Accelerometer Algorithm Analysis). Problem Description: After conducting multiple comparative tests (dual-watch setups, wearing both devices on the same wrist to eliminate arm-swing variables), a consistent pattern of distance underestimation has been identified in the Suunto Race 2 (49mm) compared to the Suunto Vertical and Suunto Race S. These tests have been carried out in various activities and, in all of them, the difference in distance ranges between 90-160m in 10km of activity. The evidence suggests that the discrepancy does not originate from the GNSS sensor itself (the recorded GPS tracks are accurate), but rather from an overly aggressive post-processing filter within the FusedSpeed algorithm or a calibration bias in the Race 2 accelerometer. Comparative Test Data example (Same Wrist - Jan 15th, 2026): Course: Urban circuit with frequent turns and 4 moderate pace intervals. GPS Mode: Performance / Dual-Band (All systems) on both devices. FIT File Distance (Race 2): 9.55 km FIT File Distance (Race S): 9.62 km Calculated GPX Distance (Raw coordinates): 9.62 km Key Technical Findings: GPX vs. FIT Gap: While the Race S and Vertical FIT distances align almost 100% with the distance calculated by the sum of latitude/longitude coordinates (GPX), the Race 2 shows a loss of ~70 meters. This confirms that the device is discarding real GNSS-provided distance based on conservative accelerometer readings. Cadence and Stance Time: Despite being on the same arm, the Race 2 consistently reports a higher cadence (174 spm vs 172 spm in Race S). This discrepancy suggests that the Race 2’s heavier chassis (49mm) might be affecting impact detection thresholds, causing the software to misinterpret movement dynamics. Pace Transition Smoothing: The distance loss is most significant during pace changes and sharp turns. The Race 2 applies a higher level of “smoothing,” often treating legitimate acceleration or cornering as sensor noise, resulting in “shortened” tracks. Inquiry for Support: Is there a known calibration offset for the Race 2 (49mm) accelerometer? Are there plans for a firmware update to align the FusedSpeed sensitivity of the Race 2 with the more transparent and accurate performance observed in the Suunto Vertical and Race S models?
  • Survey time

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    OutdoorManO
    @Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos thanks for the opportunity, done.
  • Avalanche terrain map on the watch

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    Stefan KerstingS
    In Norway we have a dedicated app with avalanche informasjon and a slope map on the web. It would be nice to see the same colors on suuntos avalanche map: https://regobs.no/?hazard=10&competence=100~0~110~115~120~130~150&orderBy=changeTime&daysBack=2&nwLat=67.6743&nwLon=15.6756&seLat=67.6374&seLon=15.8694
  • Suunto 2.50.26 – Q4 2025 Release Notes

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    @hatori_hanzo - you can also (besides the Intensity zones ring) natively view the ZoneSense data in three time fields: ZS Aerobic/an-aerobic/vo2max that you can add to a custom sport profile.
  • getting too much ascent / descent on flat routes

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    MatthiasKlugM
    @Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos … but … but … but - it was better before (and now i can no longer mock the guys that have ascent on a track…this makes a bit sad) If this is expected, i will be tolerate this expectaion, but still sadly I konw that suunto can do better. Anyway thanks for your effort on that end. (edit: my first thought was that this behaviour is somehow temperature related (the bigger the temperature drop the higher the ascent) i just wanted to mention this, we will see if the outer temps get warmer and closer to the changing room, so there is less temperature drop)
  • "Raise to Wake" not working properly during activities

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    I had that same issue with my Race and Race 2 several times (and that is also the reason why I returned to MIP Suunto Vertical).
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    @BrunoH Same to me. Visualization of labels could be improved, let’s hope for the future
  • Steps not being tracked when activity tracking

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    sky-runnerS
    @Rohit-Ravindran Have you considered recording the treadmill run as a separate Treadmill activity? That’s what I always do on my gym day - I start with a 1-2 mile warm-up on treadmill and record that separately. Then I record the rest of the gym session as Weight Training. But I wouldn’t be opposed to always recording steps on more sports. I guess the problem is where to draw the line. There are a lot of sports like cycling, skiing, or water sports where steps should definitely not be recorded.
  • Suunto 9 Peak Pro no watch faces on watch and in app

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    @pavel.samokha said in Suunto 9 Peak Pro no watch faces on watch and in app: Unfortunately as we can’t release new versions for devices Apple doesn’t support I cannot promise no issues in the future Understood and expected at this point. I’ve been slowly losing access to certain apps recently, but I’ll hold on as long as I can.
  • Live location S+ app

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    EfejotaE
    @Nikolai-Simonov OMG Updated, BT connection with iPhone and watch with Suunto App. Still the same message. Connection is still possible, though. FJ
  • gf99 and surf gf

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    @olivier-frommarseille You are correct, it is in the manual but not in the Nautic. Probably we need to wait for the next SW release to have Suunto fix this.
  • where to find the VO2MAX information?

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    @OutdoorMan said in where to find the VO2MAX information?: running and trail running ok i have 4 of them running and trail running in the last 6 weeks - it seems not enough
  • Bug: Endless sleep

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    @Niels-Søren-Bøgh Longpress the top left button until flashlight switches on. Then the device will startup again.
  • Dead Ocean?

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    And another update Unit lasted 2 months before the same fault reoccurred. Back to a dead ocean. Battery was around 30% when it died so hoping when it drains completely it’ll restore. Current an over priced paperweight. For anyone considering the Ocean please save your money and go for Garmin.
  • Tank Size

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    That sounds like a bugger. May be there is an up date to be done, have you tried looking for an update ?
  • Next Eon Steel update and feature request

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    @scubakoi I have an Eon Core & I have always dreamed of owning a EON STEEL. Let me know how the up dates are going.
  • Eon Steel Update to Eon Steel black

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    @holmehus But does everything else work ?
  • [EON Core] Include NDL in switchable fields

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    @Dave-Williams-0 I am not sure if this has been corrected in v4 up date. Have a look and let us know.
  • Metranome

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  • Загрузка офлайн карт на часы

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    pavel.samokhaP
    @Александр-Галюк could you record me a video so I can see how you choose a map region download, checks that there is a WiFi connected to the watch, then put watch on charger and at least 5 minutes with no progress