@Kraisun-Tunta I wasn’t coming at you only trying to communicate that there is a ton of n of 1 information in a search here due to the fact different people have had different experiences. After spending a bit of time here you will find that the experiences with people vary quite widely. Not sure why, but somethings have worked really well for me while for others not so well. The good news is people here help each other troubleshoot and help make things work. I get it though. I offended you. I wasn’t trying to…

@elbee thank you so much for the very detailed answer. That 5% per hour with dual band and using maps is not that bad. It seems better than I thought. I understand that before the update battery life was more similar to the numbers Suunto says.

@Mister-PYC a widget for Fasting is my ambition here.

@garyt687 When setting compass bearing at surface, sometimes u descend and it undoes the bearing. I know in manila it says stay in compass view - but it has sometimes reset on me even in that screen as soon as dive starts. This is useless. We want to set things and leave them not have a computer decide to turn them off 10 seconds afterwards. Please change that The Compass Bearing is active for 5 Minutes above water. Then Suunto resets the bearing. I have noted this also as something that can eaily confuse people setting the Bearing at the parking and during walk to the water entrance will loose the bearing fix. Suunto should fix that.But I overcome this by setting my bearing jsut before going under water. Within 5 minutes and under water it remains active and set.

@matram Feel free to ping me if you need help. or you want another service connected for autosync, but try the official channels of the app. I made this for me convenience as well and managed to upload history from Strava Garmin and all the stuff I had in the past

About the issues I was talking about in the previous posts. To be honest, I’m pretty disappointed with the Spark. It’s like the build/sound quality is very good but software is not good enough (overlapped audios/integration…). I think Suunto has an interesting opportunity here, but I’m not keeping them (for now).

@Highlands said in Suunto Vertical 1 – A Few Questions About the Future + Questions About the Vertical 2 and a Comparison with the Coros Nomad / the New Vertix 2026: @dreamer_ I hope they put a sapphire crystal on R2S. About this, I think my wife’s 46mm Run could fit a 1.4 inches screen. Perhaps they could fit that screen aize in the Race 2 S playing with the bezels and making you think the watch is not that “S” but something comparable to a Fenix 8 47mm . That simple change would make a lot of noise for marketing in my opinion and very likely much better sales (just for that)

@Joaquin Be careful not to chase perfection and in the end nothing is completed. The komoot route is a bit cumbersome and komoot is far from perfect (even if I tell komoot to not change the route, the route on my suunto race s is different than on my wife’s apple watch.) The garmin/wahoo way (select a gpx file and use the open with app) would be an improvement, even if not all tbt alerts are perfect. My first gps watch (a ambit 3 sport) only had breadcrumb navigation. Did I ever got lost? No. My watch after that, a forerunner 935, had breadcrumb and tbt alerts. (Which didn’t work well. A route could only have 50 navigation alerts and if you did your route reversed you lost all tbt alerts). Did I ever got lost? No. My first watch with maps (a forerunner 965) and having some context is nice. Eventually garmin fixed the 50 alert limit, but not the reverse problem and they introduced a timing bug (up to 10k the alerts are before a corner, after 20k alerts are in a corner, or after). And yes, on a twisty road you get alerts for every corner. Did I ever get lost? No. Now I have a suunto. Komoot is fine, but could be better. Autodetect of going reverse is good. No problem if I do a round route and the end is detected before the start (garmin has problems with this. Navigations stops when you reach the goal, which could be before you actually started). Autozoom actually works as one would except (garmin had autozoom, but that doesn’t work, or not as one should expect). But do I get lost ever? No. In the end, all are equally good in the “do not get lost” requirement. Is everything perfect? No. But don”t wait until everything is perfect. Release small steps. Get feedback. Improve some more.

@Niels-Søren-Bøgh I agree with this, and I was actually thinking about making a post like this myself.

@Squirrel completely agree. In fact, at this moment is very likely the Race and Race S are the only watches of the market without the white/red implementation. It’s not something critical, of course. But now everybody seems to like the flashlight in the watch, it’s one of those details that are very visible

@Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos Another crash today at 11:45 CET. Logs sent at 11:52 CET. Watch used Vertical 2. I’ll send you my mail in PM. So far with the current FW both my R2 and V2 are crashing every 3,4 runs. Custom trail run mode Runna guide selected Navigation route selected without turn by turn Burner and ZoneSense Plus apps External Polar H10 V2 connected to Android (today’s logs sent) while R2 to iOS Details: Upon receiving of the “thanks for running with runna” notification I was heading towards the end of the route and was waiting for the end notification. The runna notification never disappeared. What I have noticed is that the notifications with this FW are not going away automatically (most of the time but not always) until mid button pressed. The details of the run in the application are missing: all the Suunto plus data (burner) and the asc/dsc are both 0. Technique part is missing too. Any news of a hotfix coming or should I downgrade? I’ll be switching to the Ocean for now and the training season, if that doesn’t work back to the Forerunnner. Thank for your help!

@Squirrel thanks!

@sky-runner I agree. Things have changed by a lot . Perhaps trail running is not the scenario nowadays. About that argument and if you go further with that and about the map, do you really use the map in a race with beacons? Personally, it’s very rare for me to waste time using it for running in a race with beacons, but I do not conceive a watch without maps (I’m not saying I don’t conceive the watch without the navigation arrow, of course). But is very likely you are running most races with beacons (there are those that do not have them, of course). Now looking at the shot I posted about the Fenix 8, they are using just a vertical line and not an arrow (I find much better Suunto’s design, not only for this but for datafields with big numbers without text legends). This is not a comparison, It’s thinking about the arrow. But if navigation arrow is (or can be) implemented the other arrow should clearly be removed and changed for something else. I see even mark using an opaque tiny rectangle, and matching the colour of the zone. There was another brand doing that (I think). This is just thinking about it. I’m not saying that should be done (at all). But in the other side, it’s very likely that is not something complicated to implement. It’s just about keeping things clean (and I totally agree with you in that).

How unfortunate that with the latest and last firmware, heart rate measurement stopping has become so much more frequent. Before it was extremely rare, at least for me but now it seems like it’s a weekly occurrence.

@Brad_Olwin Really? Very interesting as XC Skiing is my other Usecase for the Vertical. Sun and Snow together are so bright that the MIP really shines. Also the Solar power collection is welcome. For running I really like the Race S as it is much lighter and the OHR works perfectly since the last update. Waiting for an Ocean 2 Titanium in the Race 2 case. If the new display is that much better it would serve all my demands. But as long as RaceS (discounted), Vertical Titanium (used) and Mares Divecomp together cost less than the Ocean I will stick with this trio

I enjoy both verticals and I have no problem reading them but for the summer season MiP is awesome. [image: 1779639840081-img_1252.jpeg] [image: 1779639840139-img_1254.jpeg]