@Mff73, I understand but it seems that the algorithm doesn’t take into account that if you had a couple of days ago a hard work-out and then couple of days with no feeling input but have done some exercises, it seems to continue to calculate with the last given feeling feedback instead of A default “good / very good” based on heart rate, hrv and sleep. I’ll try out the following, to understand the behaviour: workout with very good feeling result and observe what happens after a couple of days with exercises with no feeling input. Followed by exercise with hard feeling. Expect, raises of recovery and then decline again. enabling feeling for all exercises again. Expectation to have recovery, consistent, back again around 70%

@zagazoo for spikes problem with external HR sensor ( chest or optical band ), solved twice by re installing the app. I got that problem one year ago, suunto race, and once again a month ago, vertical 2 As Suunto support explains to me there are different heart rate algorithm wich took place, once before start activity ( when external device is detected and read before the start, one during activity, showed on the screen, one to create the summary graph on the watch when activity ends, and also one when sync with the suunto app ) In my case the final on watch report was good, but spikes were noticable during activity ( data on screen ) and also on the app report. Re installing the app solved the problem each time. Strange isn’t it ? Hope it will help

@Brad_Olwin I compared the Race 2 against the Vertical 1 Race S for several weeks and opened a dedicated thread to discuss the topic. As a summary: in all my activities and tests Vertical and Race S recorded practically same tracks (recorded GPS points), distances and paces, and, the most important, showed distance (in the watch ) was very close to the recorded distance when measuring the GPS recorded track. In Race 2 the behavior is different: Race 2 records practically same tracks (recorded GPS points) but showed distance is shorted (or filtered) and differs from the distance when measuring the GPS recorded track, and this GPS measured distance is similar to the distance measured with both Vertical and Race S, so ir seems that all watches record/save similar GPS info/points but processing algorithm is different. This behavior happens in running and bike activities. Which watch is more accurate? I really don’t know but for me it’s clear that altough they estimate same track (raw GPS points) they estimate different distances and paces so one must be more accurate than the other. Maybe V1 was measuring excesive distance, maybe Race 2 is measuring less distance. Maybe “perfection” is in the middle, who knows? The behavior can also be observed in activities of runners using Suunto, so it appears to be “normal” operation of the Race 2. That’s the reason I opened the dedicated thread. That said, I’m using the Race 2 as my 24/7 watch and the Vertical is in the drawer for “special” days or going out on the bike.

Also thought there probably was a protective film in place. But if you have button + screen issues, I would definitely send it in to Suunto. Their technical service is top notch!

@VoiGAS not really sure why the chat here AGAIN, please keep this scoped before we pollute all threads with the same discussion.

@carloscolaro hey, did you solve this problem? i have same watch and i have same problem.

@Egika ja stimmt. Aber ich hätte Suunto das zu getraut. Gregor schrieb mir aber, das es für alle neuen Watches kommt. Daher kollektives Aufatmen

@cosme.costa Having Suunto OHR armband would be cool. Sorry being offtopic

Hello, Have the same problem, HR stuck at 110 BPM during the first 20 minutes of running, then suddenly goes up to 165 bpm which is the correct reading. It was working better before the last firmware.

@galerna do you wear it while sleeping? It starts from a certain value after turning the watch on (idk how that value is calculated) but its intended use is to wear it overnight where it charges during sleep and then while wearing it during the day it discharges when your active/stressed and sometimes charges again when you’re relaxing enough, e.g. taking a nap. It’s not working correctly when you just use the watch during exercise

I would like to see a sum of descents (total vertical) on weekly, monthly, and yearly summary. So far, I can only see the distance, which in downhill skiing is pretty irrelevant

@Hugues78fr Yes I understand, that is why I said it is a great idea, and thus i was taking it hypothetically further…very often at a diveresort or liveaboard they show you this drawn card. I would find it a great feature if i could just take a picture and have it on my wrist! The Nautic has an awesome screen…so i guess showing a drawn map or picture for me would be SUPERHANDY If there was ANYTHING on my wishlist that would be it! Tides and maps…tssshhh…i have a phone

I can confirm that too. It has been introduced in latest firmware.

@Brad_Olwin “My Plan” is Suunto’s own approach of a training plan, or is it called differently now? I use the iOS app in German translation, what is still a bit lacking…

@SirMcKey @sportsfreund @brad_olwin Thank you! I’m slowly getting back into online things…

@gipfelkind I found the cause: the Morning Report is triggered by arm movement while I’m still in bed. If I don’t see it and leave it undismissed for an hour, it vanishes and cannot be accessed again that day.

@Dima-Pursanov Let’s hope so. It would make the watch a better tool.