@Thaler-Martin I come from Garmin, and Amazfit too. At the moment, my Race 2 is on par with Amazfit considering sleep tracking, but slightly more in line with my feelings. Clearly, Suunto is better, for me, at tracking sleep time and HR. HRV is quite equal. The worst is Garmin for me, considering sleep time accuracy and sleep score. HRV interpretation is also worse on Garmin (it takes too much time to adapt to new baseline fluctuation caused by seasons and training load, giving wrong alert in HRV status). Btw, I’m quite new with the Race 2, and have 2 nights to go before receiving HRV status.

And the next answer from Hammerhead. It seems they did understand me wrong for some things I mentioned: Hi René, Thank you for sharing your answers. You’re looking for data fields that display the time spent in each heart rate or power zone. Our team is already working on this feature, and we truly appreciate your continued insights and suggestions—please keep them coming! Regarding the other two data fields you mentioned: Training Load and TSS are not available on the Karoo and remain exclusive to Suunto. The Karoo cannot calculate TSS from heart rate data because this requires a lactate threshold heart rate value, which the Karoo does not determine. Additionally, power-based data be on the Karoo can be calculated relying entirely on the power data provided by your power meter. If you’re curious about why we prioritize power-based calculations, this article offers a helpful explanation: How Accurate Is That Calorie Reading? There is an option to install HR2VP, which is a multipurpose cycling app that estimates power based on heart rate and broadcasts to your bike computer. You can install it on your Karoo from the list of Extensions and use it with the heart rate monitor to view the calorie values. • Karoo OS - Extensions Library • FAQ: Hammerhead Extensions I shared your feedback with the Product Team. There are many factors to consider for product decisions so we cannot deliver on every suggestion, but we value your input. It helps our team better understand what improvements riders would like to see. Please keep providing regular insights and suggestions. We appreciate you taking the time to do so. Let us know if you have any further queries. Take care and have a wonderful week ahead. Best regards,

Thanks @duffman19 I checked the settings several times and they are both disabled. I think it’s a software issue. I already contacted Suunto bud it always takes sooooo long to get an answer. So the problem still exists. Kristof

@Nikolai-Simonov If this feature can also help reduce the phone’s battery consumption, that would be amazing. Sometimes when we go deep into the forest, the phone keeps trying to search for a signal, which can drain the battery faster. I really like this feature and I hope it continues to improve. Keep up the great work with the development!

hi, same here, i had to do a factory reset to have the default retro LED watch face… As soon as I turned on the watch out from the box, it showed the default Suunto Vertical 2 watch face (I already have another Vertical 2 registered in the Suunto app). regards

@Horizontal_2 - so you mean you own a Suunto Vertical 2 watch, and in your Suunto Plus store - the Race 2 watch face is available to download? Hmm… then it might just be that this “Race2” watch face is no longer made available for Suunto Ocean watch. For myself - I do not have Race2 and Outback adventure watch face anymore - to download from the Suunto Plus store. Could other Suunto Ocean users confirm this? I last counted on my Suunto Plus store - I have a total of 44 watch faces (excluding Outback Adventure & Race 2) available to choose from.

@runsgrun thanks! Much appreciated.

@atoponce Wow, what an experience you had, haha! Thanks for sharing. I think from now on I’ll think twice before charging my watch in these kinds of situations.

this is a basic function available on almost all smart watches. Hope Suunto people will develop it

@zhangschmidt said in My Vertical 2 Wishlist for Next Update in 2026: Any change of watch means that an HRV baseline has to be established anew That is even the case with Garmin. I guess the hardware variations are big enough that it is not meaninful to apply the baseline of an older watch to a newer one…

@CarlW If you are only interested in a straight line, you could use azimuth navigation. The compass will still show the direction to the azimuth determined from the paper map.

I’ve owned the 9PP for several years and never had issues, however the HR has stopped tracking in the middle of the night twice this week reporting an hour or two of sleep. I’m on v2.50.28 Thanks for the help

@SuuntoPartnerTeam So will there be a curated list of user submitted watch faces from the app store? Perhaps a competition for three new user made watch faces?

I create routes in Caltopo. If I import directly into Suunto App I loose the elevation data. I import into GPS Visualizer.com first and the to Suunto it adds back in the elevation data.