@aiv4r said in Is there still demand for a modern MIP endurance watch?: @Brad_Olwin yes I am aware and I started to use it also, but I ment in the app after the run is uploaded. Agreed, for me I use S+ TrainingPeaks Run and you will have NGP in the app after the run, this will allow NGP to show in the lap table.

@snow said in New firmware 2.53.42: You need to start the activity Ah! Yes… That works. This was incredibly convoluted… Thanks. Hope my bumbling around will help other users. Edit: Everybody is talking about the Menu only accessible from the Map screen itself (the 3 lines/hamburger icon). Edit 2: And it works even without any Route loaded. Great!

I really like the idea of them. I currently have the Shokz Aeropex and they work very well for me but on longer outings I do start to feel them push against the top of my ears at the back. I had been considering the shokz of a similar design but the additional run-specific features in the Spark could well win me over. I’ll wait for some reviews regarding comfort and sound quality though as I don’t think there’s going to be anywhere near me that stocks them I can try them before buying.

Issue still present after the update!

@Brad_Olwin Here here to all of what you said! In some respects, I’m tempted many times to turn OFF much of the detailed analysis features and just go by feel, and use watches for time and distance data (which dual band GNSS has made scary accurate!). I had someone tell me when I first started running to learn to run by feel, and specifically to go to the extreme at times of literally covering the watch screen with tape (a little harder now with touch lol) to force myself to focus on the run, not the watch. I haven’t followed that as much as I probably should, but just like other posts I’ve made across this forum in recent days, there’s a point that simpler is better. And even with sleep data, my personal take has become more and more to use it as a reference for long term trends, rather than a detailed to the minute view of a particular night.

@Sportsfreund said in Suunto and Concept 2 indoor rowing: Good work, guy. But really, there’s no need for a connection like this. The PM5 needs to be connected to a smartphone to plan and upload races. What we need is a connection from C2 to Suunto to actually use the load values ​​in CTL/ATL, etc. A connection from the C2 logbook to import into Suunto seems not within the scope of what is possible with a SuuntoPlus app, but rather, that ability would need to come from a collaboration of Concept2/Suunto themselves. If Suunto wishes to do that, then perhaps they can also talk to SmartRow so sessions from the SR logbook could also auto-upload to Suunto? http://www.smartrow.fit/ This setup would be for people not currently using the PM5 bluetooth connection to send data elsewhere like ErgData or EXR, etc. People on alternate rowers like the RP3 or the SmartRow system I use may one day benefit from the work here if it extends beyond the Concept2. I have two data connections from my power meter, so one can go to my SmartRow app and another could go to a connection like this. Perhaps eventually C2 will update the PM5 to allow dual bluetooth signals as many cycling power meters have.

The issue with lost bluetooth connection to Suunto Chest Strap is still present

@EzioAuditore I am not aware, that anything has been changed in the distance measurement with the recent update. And I have also seen the Race 2 measuring less than Vertical 2. Just I have not made a bug from this, as I am not sure, it is one. A slightly less distance does not affect me in a negative way. Plus it is not clear, if less is actually wrong…

@freeheeler said in Recovery: watch and SA differ: @emkei me too… but I found a workaround: in movescount suunto promoted the phone as an extended watch display: that’s what I do. I use the watch mainly to track and record and look at the data in the app only. which data is correct? I don’t know. but it is where I see a long term trend. and I don’t want to worry Yes, this is probably the only way - but still awkward as Suunto is the only company I know having this issue. Unfortunately, this was not the only reason I left - there were differences between watch, iOS app and iPadOS in: steps TSS Recovery Resources HRV And sleep tracking was really off (especially if ready at bed, or working at a standing desk) The thread: Recovery watch & App

@Manuel-Extreme This is shocking to know as it might be a complete deal-breaker for everyone doing triathlons! Usually I connect my HRM before swimming to have it automatically reconnect afterwards for biking and running. But if it does not get any connection while swimming at all (happens quite often to me) it might not automatically reconnect afterwards and leave you without any HR data for the complete race!

@isazi ops… sorry

The problem was resolved after updating the suunto app to version 6.8.9

@pavel.samokha pls check above. Thx

@brave_dave Absolutely agree with you about notifications.

Same here! I need to disconnect and reconnect the sensor in order to restore its functionality. I have only a single Suunto HR belt. Hardware Pixel 8a Android 16 Suunto Smart HR belt App version 6.7.12 Watch Race Software version v2.53.42, installed 7 April 2026 Previous versions 2.50.28 same error as in the current version 2.50.26 same error as in the current version 2.48.16 no dropouts Logs sent at 19.28 CEST Screenshot from yesterday: [image: 1775669705361-1000093912.png]

@aiv4r I agree, although I also use the Suunto Run for trail running. The point is, in my humble opinion, that when you open the Suunto Plus apps the game changes, it opens up many more possibilities for road and trail running. We’ll see

@isazi Thanks for the update, I really do hope we get the features, as swimming is primarily my sport. And the watch is both diving and sport advertised. Also, the fact that Suunto recommended this knowing my use case does not seem to make sense at this point. I would really like to get involved to help the delays on the Ocean, as it is a solid product just lacks the support in comparison to the other outdoor watches.