@Joaquin wonderful work, Joaquín. Thank you! Is there any estimate for when this update will arrive in Race 2?

@suuntastic totally agree with your comment about the phony watch.

@Mff73 always nice when someone else has done the work! Thanks, I didn’t know about that post, or Sonny’s work.

@Joaquin said in Several navigation issues (feedback): @dreamer_ Run is a different platform compared to the other Suunto watches, even with its own dedicated R&D, so it’s normal to see noticeable differences in certain areas. The focus of Run is to be Suunto’s entry-level offering, mainly targeted at road runners who occasionally practice other sports. The goal behind Run is to provide an affordable watch for users who are not 100% outdoor-focused, allowing them to experience the Suunto ecosystem at a more accessible price point. If they enjoy the experience, they can later move up to the more “premium” lineup such as the Suunto Race S, Suunto Vertical 2, Race 2, and so on. As an outdoor user myself, I completely understand your concerns and I even share some of them. However, I think we also need to carefully differentiate the entry-level Run range from the more advanced models. Let’s see what surprises a future Run 2 may bring. Regarding the turns, this only happens to you with Komoot, right? With routes created directly in the Suunto app, everything works perfectly? I tested the Run using the route created with Komoot’s algorythms. That’s the key of my post (no matter if I was using the Run or my Vertical 2 Titanium, since I used Komoot’s algorythms for creating the GPX with TBT indications). About the issue, you are right. It seems created by Komoot and it happens in both my Vertical 2 and my wife’s Run. It’s very clear Joaquin. In fact, Komoot’s support confirmed the offset is created by them. There are also several things I was talking , like missing the final part in that route because Komoot’s issue or wrong Climb notifications because Komoot does a pre/post-processing of the routes, affecting the performance of the navigation to several things. But if you want TBT in a route that is already created (I.E, a GPX track provided by a race organization) , at this moment. you need to use Komoot. In my opinion, now you have a super nice tool like Route Planner, I’d be incredible nice if all the algorythms are made by Suunto instead of using Komoot’s.

@dreamer_ You were right: Pace 4 - black crystal and cloud white. https://x.com/corosjapan/status/2057639416659947996?s=46

@Łukasz-Szmigiel I loaded it up and was able to start an activity. However when I hit the lap button Constantin disappeared the first time I tried. On the second attempt I was able to keep it on the screen. Looks like it might be fixed.

@2b2bff well well well … if you tell to someone who is doing a diet that he lost 5000 g and to his wife that she lost 5 kg … you are right … this is not the same … the wife will be super happy but the man wearing a suunto and for who 43 and 43.0 make a difference will start to question himself about the precision of instrument … how it could have been possible that he arrives preciselly to exact 5000 Joking !!!

@Elipsus no worries, I just shared the “why” : )

@elbee I agree, there should be a simple toggle for morning report without doing anything about sleep tracking.

@cosme.costa said in Strap/Band color suggestion for 90th Anniversary Edition: I do not agree that Suunto’s textile strap is low quality. There are two reasons why I wrote that: The metal clasp at the end of the strap fell off within a few weeks. I was able to fix it back with pliers, but that felt cheap! it came with 2 straps included - a short one and a long one. Well, the short one was too short and the long one was borderline too long. After a couple of months of wearing it, the strap lose a little bit of elasticity that it had and stretched out, so now it was way too long for my wrist. Also, because there no longer was any elastisticity, sometimes it felt uncomfortable on multi-hour trail runs. My wrists aren’t meaty. In comparison, the 90th anniversary strap feels so much more comfortable. It is very similar to Garmin Ultrafit strap too that I used for several years in the past.

@manno02 I’m not using the vertical 2 but this issues seem to happen across several devices. I stopped using the chest strap until this is solved because the OHR works fine on the Suunto Run.

It’s been happening to me for 2 days now. The first time I didn’t pay much attention to it, but yesterday’s was more “fun.” In the middle of an interval workout, the watch decided to restart itself, ending the activity. When I noticed, I started the same activity again with the same interval workout, and to my surprise it restarted itself two more times. In addition to the activity, I was also using a COROS HRM. I’m trying to send the logs, but the app freezes and won’t even let me send them… a complete disaster.

said in Suunto Spark: I did not comment but I’m testing my Spark. So feedback post: Sound quality is really good. Build quality is very nice. They feel really premium. Not so good things: The touch is too sensitive. I have disabled by default the “one click” Audio notifications are exactly the same as without the Spark. I knew that, but I didn’t expect the latin american spanish for Spain. Metrics are not integrated with the watch. I think the S+ app should have two more options: An option to toggle on/off things like navigation audio indications, so users can decide if they want the navigation audio indications (which are very useful in several cases). For that, Suunto should implement the feature (which is still missing). An option to toggle on/off to use the metrics taken from the Spark’s pedometers in the main activity in the watch. I mean, to not have 2 activities in the app (watch and spark). Something similar that what happens when you are using a chest/arm strap. Only one activity with the much better bpm taken from the chest/armstrap, not two activities. Something similar happens here with the Spark, since you have 2 additional pedometers that are going to work a lot better than something that is taken from a watch that is in one moving arm. For someone that made the effort of buying the Spark, I see this as an important software bug that should be solved. Having 2 individual activities has not sense (at all). Ideally: Go further with a firmware update for using the pedometers of the spark for indoor/treadmill runs, if possible of course. Things like voice notes while on workout (if possible). Just those little things for making the Spark a must and a perfect companion. About the voice things. Garmin, Amazfit and since this May, now Coros are working seriously on this. This is Coros’ May update: https://eu.coros.com/stories/coros-metrics/c/may-2026 It is very interesting for several scenarios (I.E, running with gloves in winter but see Coros notes). I think the Spark have a lot of potential here and Suunto should really think in the integration as an ecosystem. There are many use cases considering also the integrated pods. There’s a lot of marketing with these things, but at the end Suunto is behind the rest and the integration thing is somehow super interesting considering Suunto has it’s own headsets.

@jmlee I’m sorry it didn’t work. I’ll ask a friend if he’ll let me try it with his 9PP and let you know.

@Thlcd great comparison. I also have noticed that the last update, although full of bugs and battery eating, greatly improved the wrist HR on the Race S. Previously I only used the HR chest strap, but after reading comments here I gave it a chance for walking and body building – for biking the watch is on the handlebar, so I need the strap. Well, after a few tries, I have to say that finally it seems that it works well!

Have to say, what you don’t know you cannot miss. But last year, in a very dark hotelroom, the screenflashlight of my race s was sufficient for my wife to find something on the table while I could stay in bed. So, for now, I’m in “what’s all the fuss about” mode. The digital crown of my race s is complex. Just using it to scroll up or down through menus or items is hideous. The 5 button layout of my previous garmin was better, but with touchscreen I don’t use the buttons very often. But to zoom in and out in a map it’s great. Again with a but. I was used to zoom on the garmin and it was horrible. Complex and buggy as hell. So is the crown just better that worst case garmin or would a 5 button Suunto implementation beat the digital crown? Might. perhaps. Not unlikely. Have to say, the race s provides the features I want in the smallest possible case, so the vertical 2 wouldn’t be competition for my race s (for me). So 5 buttons or a digital crown wasn’t a consideration. Have to say, 5 buttons shouts a bit more outdoorsy and a digital crown a bit more watch like.

Thank you everyone i will wait