@stromdiddily I normally used Fenix 7 Pro and Apple Watch Series 10 and 11 with overlapping data that let me analyze sleep and behaviors that improved or worsened its quality. The Vertical 2 loses hours of sleep (because the HR sensor randomly shuts off) and the phase durations are consequently wrong. I don’t need another device… I want the one I have to work on par with the others. The technology and hardware allow it, I still think it’s just a major software problem.

@fedequei Sorry, English isn’t my native language: I may not have been clear. That’s exactly right, it’s the swipe up from the control bar at the bottom of the home screen. You’ll see that your watch no longer syncs automatically, so the weather widget may no longer be up to date, and activities no longer sync automatically at the end of the activity, but doing it once a day is enough. My routine has become: I get up in the morning, synchronise the watch for the weather widget and sleep tracking, then manually close the app. Then, if I’ve been running or doing an activity, I synchronise again. Basically, I’ve gone from multiple automatic synchronisations per day to two manual synchronisations. This obviously has an impact on the battery.

“Charged my watch to 100% at 11 AM. It’s now 1 PM and already down to 95%. Apparently, my watch has big ambitions — maybe it’s training for the Olympics in background activity. I even reset it, gave it a fresh start in life, but clearly it prefers drama over efficiency. That ‘connected but not available’ status? Yeah, sounds like my watch is in a relationship with chaos.”

@Martin-Vrska said in Update: Returning My Vertical 2: @Luis-Andés-Olmedo I understand, but I don’t understand. I switched from Vertical 1 to Vertical 2 and when I put both machines next to each other, I can’t believe I could look at the V1 display - the colors are somewhere completely different. The endurance with my 3 hours of training per week, sleep tracking and connection to my mobile is more than a week and the screen experience is incomparable. Let me explain: with AOD OFF, the AMOLED display is too slow to turn on in certain situations, or it simply doesn’t let me see the time without moving my hand. With AOD ON, I feel like it’s artificial to have the watch emitting light all the time in everyday life; I just don’t like it. Maybe I’m too old-school. In any case, I hope I won’t need a watch with maps (that is the main reason why I have a smart-sports-watch) when MIP watches are no longer available. Then I’ll be able to train with any Casio or TIMEX Ironman.

@Tami999 you have diamond thumbs !

@Speedy78 nie rozumiem nie pomogę

@Brad_Olwin In the austrian / german shop there is just Wing2 and Sonic

@maszop I agree that function cannot stomp all over form, there needs to be a balance. The two new faces, Race 2 and Vertical 2, are really nice and I switch between them, I just wish they’d consider slightly larger fonts for the complications, just reduce the time a little. It can work!

@tailwind_mrs seems suunto run is not a good choice for swimmer, hope it could do the same job as other series throughout software update in further perhaps (finger-cross), or, go back to Garmin? or race/vertical series… And by pressing the bottom button after each interval WON’T STOP the interval time, but SPLIT the interval distance & time, no CURRENT REST TIME in anywhere. However, press the top button will see CURRENT REST TIME, but cant split the interval. The “auto stop” seems can’t be deactivated, which is only option for me to track interval data.

Here is comparison of Suunto 5 (with Suunto Smart Sensor) vs Suunto Race 2 (OHR). I had Race 2 tight enough but still comfortible. It is possible to tighten it one hole more but than it is not comfortable to wear anymore. [image: 1760545658215-amcharts.png]

@Alpha-156.42 said in OHR: Why do people believe that optical heart rate sensors, no matter if they’re from Garmin, Apple, or other brands, can measure heart rate accurately in every situation? This is why, text directly from suunto race 2 product page: The redesigned back panel enables better heart rate measurement from the wrist. The result? A seamless, powerful training experience. But text that it doesn’t work for everyone or every skin tone is buried somewhere in usermanual only. It is same with sleeptracking or any other metric. If you sell device for 500€ and advertise that it does something, then you must expect that people will require that advertised features just works. This is overal problem of marketing, not just Suunto.

@greku I had same experience. Charge went up to 99% and stood there. After that in 48h it went to 81%. Then I did shut down bluetooth discovery for other devices and now after four and a half day I have 66% left. I don’t know if discovery mode have something to do with battery consumption.

@halajos Here you go. This method is not as good as the method in my opening post with ruler. But it can be seen here too, yes. [image: 1760265355364-img_1023.jpeg]

I can confirm the latest Apple iOS beta seems to resolve this. iPhone 17Pro and Race 2 - no issues

@Tomas5 mine looks very similar. I log on average 30-45min gps a day. AOD off, lowest brightness and raise to wake display only

@Doodoo-Runner said in Suunto Vertical 2 questions: Hi everyone, I just received my Vertical 2 today and have a couple questions. I am using Always on Display on low brightness. Is it normal that when I touch the screen it won’t fully wake up to the watch face? Currently, the only way to do so is by gesture or pressing a button. Also, is it normal to go from 100% battery to 96% in around 2.5 hours? Yes, both normal AOD display does not wake up on touch only. Raising wrist or button is necessary. Battery consumption can be misleading for the first charging cycles. Better check again after discharge (down to 10-20%) and full charge. Enjoy your watch!

@sartoric said in Alarm clock not triggered at 00:00: Not to mention that, as I said, this is JUST a workaround, for sure the alarm must work as expected.

@fritzbt2013 said in Custom Sports Modes disappearing after each firmware update: @gizmo two updates ago I lost everything like you. Last update (the hotfix) I only lost one custom sport mode. The later has been my typical experience with updates since I got the watch. What I have learned is to add a custom sport mode that I do not use such a stretching and make sure it is the least used. When I get the update that will be the one I lost. I did that as well a couple of times. Now I always have, not a least used custom mode, but a least used standard mode (not customized). And never had any more any mode deleted. Coincidence? Marboutism? Nothing scientific for sure .

@neilme I wasn’t referring to customizing the default structured workout screen, that’s not possible in any Suunto as you said, but I was saying that only on Suunto Run you cannot add your own screens to the structured workout. On all other Suunto watches, while you cannot customize the Suunto Guide screen, you can add your own screens along side, this isn’t the case for Suunto Run. Interval pace, interval distance on Suunto Run are useless right now, you won’t see them during a structured workout because on Suunto Run as I said before, you cannot add your own screens, so you’re left with a few screens Suunto makes available during structure workouts and that’s it.