@joaquin there’s one thing. About the measuring wheel. I understand you are being sure that is well calibrated. I know that this can be a very silly question and I was not going to ask, but there’s no reference at the posts about how you ensured the calibration and the wheel is the reference (and the possible point of failure). Just for that to keep everything detailed. Thank you so much

@Highlands said in Suunto Vertical 1 – A Few Questions About the Future + Questions About the Vertical 2 and a Comparison with the Coros Nomad / the New Vertix 2026: @dreamer_ I hope they put a sapphire crystal on R2S. About this, I think my wife’s 46mm Run could fit a 1.4 inches screen. Perhaps they could fit that screen aize in the Race 2 S playing with the bezels and making you think the watch is not that “S” but something comparable to a Fenix 8 47mm . That simple change would make a lot of noise for marketing in my opinion and very likely much better sales (just for that)

@Stavrogin I understand, and I’m sorry too for sounding a bit sarcastic earlier. I actually did search before asking. I was mainly looking for more recent experiences or newer strap models that people are using successfully now. I just wanted to avoid buying another one that works fine at first, then starts losing HR data after during runs

@cosme.costa said in Strap/Band color suggestion for 90th Anniversary Edition: I do not agree that Suunto’s textile strap is low quality. There are two reasons why I wrote that: The metal clasp at the end of the strap fell off within a few weeks. I was able to fix it back with pliers, but that felt cheap! it came with 2 straps included - a short one and a long one. Well, the short one was too short and the long one was borderline too long. After a couple of months of wearing it, the strap lose a little bit of elasticity that it had and stretched out, so now it was way too long for my wrist. Also, because there no longer was any elastisticity, sometimes it felt uncomfortable on multi-hour trail runs. My wrists aren’t meaty. In comparison, the 90th anniversary strap feels so much more comfortable. It is very similar to Garmin Ultrafit strap too that I used for several years in the past.

@Brad_Olwin Really? Very interesting as XC Skiing is my other Usecase for the Vertical. Sun and Snow together are so bright that the MIP really shines. Also the Solar power collection is welcome. For running I really like the Race S as it is much lighter and the OHR works perfectly since the last update. Waiting for an Ocean 2 Titanium in the Race 2 case. If the new display is that much better it would serve all my demands. But as long as RaceS (discounted), Vertical Titanium (used) and Mares Divecomp together cost less than the Ocean I will stick with this trio

@Joaquin Be careful not to chase perfection and in the end nothing is completed. The komoot route is a bit cumbersome and komoot is far from perfect (even if I tell komoot to not change the route, the route on my suunto race s is different than on my wife’s apple watch.) The garmin/wahoo way (select a gpx file and use the open with app) would be an improvement, even if not all tbt alerts are perfect. My first gps watch (a ambit 3 sport) only had breadcrumb navigation. Did I ever got lost? No. My watch after that, a forerunner 935, had breadcrumb and tbt alerts. (Which didn’t work well. A route could only have 50 navigation alerts and if you did your route reversed you lost all tbt alerts). Did I ever got lost? No. My first watch with maps (a forerunner 965) and having some context is nice. Eventually garmin fixed the 50 alert limit, but not the reverse problem and they introduced a timing bug (up to 10k the alerts are before a corner, after 20k alerts are in a corner, or after). And yes, on a twisty road you get alerts for every corner. Did I ever get lost? No. Now I have a suunto. Komoot is fine, but could be better. Autodetect of going reverse is good. No problem if I do a round route and the end is detected before the start (garmin has problems with this. Navigations stops when you reach the goal, which could be before you actually started). Autozoom actually works as one would except (garmin had autozoom, but that doesn’t work, or not as one should expect). But do I get lost ever? No. In the end, all are equally good in the “do not get lost” requirement. Is everything perfect? No. But don”t wait until everything is perfect. Release small steps. Get feedback. Improve some more.

Thank you everyone i will wait

@dreamer_ when you mention beacons, do you mean course markings - that is how it is called in United States - usually a combination of turn signs and ribbons to make sure that you are on the course. I still use navigation for two reasons: To have elevation profile, climb guidance, and distances to aid stations. To boost confidence in case I haven’t seen course markings for some time. Also, occasionally, course markings get tampered with or blown away by wind. Perhaps, during a race I spend less time on the map screen and more time on the elevation profile, especially now that it can also show distances to upcoming waypoints. So in a way, the elevation profile is almost equivalent to Garmin’s Up Ahead feature (but sadly without waypoint names, which I think Suunto should add). But during a long training run I spend more time on the map screen because I tend to have a unique route for each long run that is specially tailored to my distance and elevation goals for that run.

@dreamer_ good suggestion, I don’t have access to an android device but I agree that would be ideal. I can try my wife’s iPhone running iOS 17 (I think). Appreciate the suggestion.

No day without another new vibecoded service. This one is at least more-Suunto specific, not yet another “I made MCP server so you can connect Claude to your Suunto data” (then repeat spam post for Garmin/Coros/etc.) It’s great that people are doing various services, but seems like LLM made this so easy that people not thinking enough about the implications. Vibecode first, market second, reasoning later if ever. But yeah, already think on making paid options What’s the point of the service? What it adds in comparison with Suunto App? Majority of the users sync their Suunto Watch with Suunto App, so even if some third-party service can extract and upload watchfaces, they will likely by overwritten when user sync his watch to SA. Or if they care to change IDs then you can end up with duplicates. And I can continue with other questions, like what happens if Suunto do changes to WF API/format. Then you can break something in the watch using third-party service like this. Find out how to make custom WF? OK, same as above, the fact that you can find out, doesn’t mean it’s good - maybe Suunto is not releasing it because it’s not yet ready for general audience and risky to break the watch. All in all, for the author: good catch to reverse engineer the protocol, for ordinary users: beware.

Best Suunto watch so far (3 years anniversary), after t6c and Ambit 3 Vertical. It fully satisfied my need (I prefer having fartlek sessions over fine-grained training plans, so I am probably missing many advanced features). Never got a single crash. Just got disappointed by the OHR hardware quality.

As it might help someone else that stumbles on the same problem… At least for me it was this Win11 setting that changed things for the better: [image: 1779361611853-34c5e7c4-b6da-4083-9a1f-d14850795012-image.png] Seems stupid in hindsight, but I was not aware that Default only identifies low-power connectivity Bluetooth devices. Happy days! no I will be able to test my apps!

@matram Feel free to ping me if you need help. or you want another service connected for autosync, but try the official channels of the app. I made this for me convenience as well and managed to upload history from Strava Garmin and all the stuff I had in the past

@Adrian.S here is a way to fix this. Export both activities as fit files. Use a third party to merge the files and export the merged as a GPX exercise. Upload the merged GPX into the sportstracker website. The merged file will be present and if acceptable you can delete the separate original files.

@elbee thank you so much for the very detailed answer. That 5% per hour with dual band and using maps is not that bad. It seems better than I thought. I understand that before the update battery life was more similar to the numbers Suunto says.

@Squirrel completely agree. In fact, at this moment is very likely the Race and Race S are the only watches of the market without the white/red implementation. It’s not something critical, of course. But now everybody seems to like the flashlight in the watch, it’s one of those details that are very visible

@Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos Another crash today at 11:45 CET. Logs sent at 11:52 CET. Watch used Vertical 2. I’ll send you my mail in PM. So far with the current FW both my R2 and V2 are crashing every 3,4 runs. Custom trail run mode Runna guide selected Navigation route selected without turn by turn Burner and ZoneSense Plus apps External Polar H10 V2 connected to Android (today’s logs sent) while R2 to iOS Details: Upon receiving of the “thanks for running with runna” notification I was heading towards the end of the route and was waiting for the end notification. The runna notification never disappeared. What I have noticed is that the notifications with this FW are not going away automatically (most of the time but not always) until mid button pressed. The details of the run in the application are missing: all the Suunto plus data (burner) and the asc/dsc are both 0. Technique part is missing too. Any news of a hotfix coming or should I downgrade? I’ll be switching to the Ocean for now and the training season, if that doesn’t work back to the Forerunnner. Thank for your help!